Stevo985 Posted September 21, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted September 21, 2015 Under Lambert I thought he made a mistake in not picking Grealish more, in fact I think a move to Bristol City was lined up at one stage.Under Sherwood not picking Libor is a huge mistake. We need goals, he will score them based on?Both Gestede and Ayew had good scoring seasons last year. Kozak has had one good cup run (4 games) and a spell in the Czech second division. All of a sudden its clear he's the answer and Sherwood is wrong. OK then. He's not the answer.But I would bet my mortgage that he'd be doing more than Ayew or Gestede are managing at the moment.You missed out the spell in our team where Kozak actually scored a few goals for us in your summation of his past. Gestede and Ayew may well develop into better players than Kozak. I bloody hope they do. but at this precise moment in time they're both wank. Kozak isn't. Until they're up to speed Kozak should have featured more.what I've seen of Kozak, he seems to be wank. He scored 4 goals for us, quite how that can lead to a statement like "we need goals, he will score them" is beyond me. Ayew and Gestede have both looked very poor so far, but neither have had much of a look in as a central striker so I think it's a bit much to claim a player who hasn't played at this level for 18 months and who before a horrific injury, wasn't really playing great, is now suddenly going to come in and do so much better. Kozak should start to get a chance if this continues but Ayew and Gestede are going to get a proper chance to get up to speed due to the investment in them and the potential they could have on our season. I doubt Kozak would offer much more at this moment in time. He's certainly done nothing to be the sort of player the manager is insulted for not playing. All of our strikers are wank.But Kozak seems to be the one most likely to score goals. So I'll take that over the rest of them any day of the week.Until Gestede and Ayew are up to speed, Kozak should be getting more of a look in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 How are they going to get up to speed if Kozak is played ahead of them? I'd also disagree he's more likely to get goals. His goal scoring record throughout his career is pretty poor and he hasn't played at this level in 18 months. I think Kozak also will need to get up to speed, there's no way he's going to hit the ground running after the time he's missed. I'd rather get Gestede and Ayew more first team football to get them going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted September 21, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted September 21, 2015 That's why I said he should be "getting more of a look in".I completely agree he shouldn't be playing every minute of every game.I get it, you've made your mind up that Kozak is shit. But if you're arguing that Kozak doesn't deserve any game time when Ayew and Gestede look so far off the pace then you're just mking yourself look silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) Gestede and Ayew look garbage so far and Gabby is just being Gabby so by default, whether Kojak is shit or not, he deserves a chance.Cannot back Sherwood on this one. Edited September 21, 2015 by sexbelowsound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 That quote "At the moment I favour the players in front of him,"Does that actually mean exactly what it says, in what context did this answer come? Hard to believe he come out and said he favours the players in front of him, who are these players...the ones he's already picking...is he really saying that kozak is end of the list. And these players, I suppose "strikers", what has their scoring record been thus far and what is it that he prefers about them...they wear nicer smelling aftershave or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 I'd be inclined to give Kozak a go tomorrow, in the interests of meritocracy. It's already at the 'can't do any worse' stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 That's why I said he should be "getting more of a look in".I completely agree he shouldn't be playing every minute of every game.I get it, you've made your mind up that Kozak is shit. But if you're arguing that Kozak doesn't deserve any game time when Ayew and Gestede look so far off the pace then you're just mking yourself look silly. I've said that if this continues he should start to get a look in, I've said it a few times. I just don't think he will do much and strongly disagree with the comment Richard made, about him scoring the goals we need and disagree with insulting the manager for not playing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icouldtelltheworld Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Just seen Libor by the job centre in Sutton. What do we reckon, 12 month contract with Jaguar Land Rover? Would be a shame, as he still has much to give at this level IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roonst83 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Libor loves a goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Gestede and Ayew showed tonight why it's worth persisting with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gharperr Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Gestede and Ayew showed tonight why it's worth persisting with them.Debatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Gestede and Ayew showed tonight why it's worth persisting with them.Debatable. Gestede scored and Ayew helped change the game. What's up for debate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Doesn't matter anyway, as Agbonlahor when fit will still be played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Doesn't matter anyway, as Agbonlahor when fit will still be played.When you're moaning about the manager when we win I think you need to have a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandaq Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Gestede and Ayew showed tonight why it's worth persisting with them.Debatable. Gestede scored and Ayew helped change the game. What's up for debate? I would argue Gestede maybe. Ayew haven't gotten enough game time. We'll see. However, it does kinda feel like his villa career is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Doesn't matter anyway, as Agbonlahor when fit will still be played.When you're moaning about the manager when we win I think you need to have a break. Me? think you're drunk mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gharperr Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Gestede and Ayew showed tonight why it's worth persisting with them.Debatable. Gestede scored and Ayew helped change the game. What's up for debate? Ill follow the trend of your original point.Gestede touch of the rapist showed tonight why he might not be worth persisting withGestede previous shit performance in the prem showed why he might not be worth persisting with.Ayew previous shit prem performances showed why he might not be worth persisting with.Kozak games pre-season against lower opposition (similar to gestede/ayew in this game) shows why he might be worth trying out.Its just a weird thread to post your original comment in. Somehow 45 mins against lower opposition is good enough for one player in the prem and for it to be a reason why kozak shouldnt start but previous prem games and good pre season isnt good enough for kozak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 i hoped he'd at least make the bench and still hope he will feature again if/when the current gloom and pressure starts to lift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Kozak scored a hatrick in pre season and isn't good enough, that is a very good point. I wish Sherwood had signed Kozak, he'd be given plenty of time. The guy has played less than 20 games due to injury but is being written off. Hilarious.Gestede and Ayew showed tonight why it's worth persisting with them.Debatable. Gestede scored and Ayew helped change the game. What's up for debate? Ill follow the trend of your original point.Gestede touch of the rapist showed tonight why he might not be worth persisting withGestede previous shit performance in the prem showed why he might not be worth persisting with.Ayew previous shit prem performances showed why he might not be worth persisting with.Kozak games pre-season against lower opposition (similar to gestede/ayew in this game) shows why he might be worth trying out.Its just a weird thread to post your original comment in. Somehow 45 mins against lower opposition is good enough for one player in the prem and for it to be a reason why kozak shouldnt start but previous prem games and good pre season isnt good enough for kozak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Gestede and Ayew showed tonight why it's worth persisting with them.Debatable. Gestede scored and Ayew helped change the game. What's up for debate? Ill follow the trend of your original point.Gestede touch of the rapist showed tonight why he might not be worth persisting withGestede previous shit performance in the prem showed why he might not be worth persisting with.Ayew previous shit prem performances showed why he might not be worth persisting with.Kozak games pre-season against lower opposition (similar to gestede/ayew in this game) shows why he might be worth trying out.Its just a weird thread to post your original comment in. Somehow 45 mins against lower opposition is good enough for one player in the prem and for it to be a reason why kozak shouldnt start but previous prem games and good pre season isnt good enough for kozakPosted it in this thread as some were ready to send two brand new signings to the bench in favour of Kozak. You really think a few games with a new team and at a whole new level show they might not be worth persisting with? That's absolutely ridiculous. Both players have the potential to have a big impact on our season, Kozak doesn't. We've invested in both players and both are going to get the chance to continue to improve on good performances tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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