MakemineVanilla Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Loudon Wainwright III 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, MakemineVanilla said: Loudon Wainwright III In my opinion he didn't hit a bad patch. It's a great debut and then every album that followed didn't disappoint. I say every album, up to Therapy. Edited August 17, 2023 by Seat68 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Audioslave. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted August 17, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Xann said: Sweet "rare groove." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 17, 2023 Moderator Share Posted August 17, 2023 14 minutes ago, Marka Ragnos said: Sweet "rare groove." As important an influence on early hip hop as GilScott Heron and the Last Poets. DJ Kool Herc and Grandmaster Flash both used breakbeats from Cymande and then De La Soul did it again later on Still largely unknown in the UK where they formed, more well known in the US Inthink 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted August 17, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) 1976. Certainly one of the best rock debuts ever ... no question. Tom Petty stood WAY out at the time, and like so many American acts that challenge the status quo, England helped "discover" him for America (same with the Pixies, Chrissie Hyde, etc.). I know someone who knew members of the band in those early days in Florida, and he said they were a local sensation as the "Mud diggers" or something like that, but being from northern Florida at the time was just really very unhip (it perhaps still is lol). Edited August 17, 2023 by Marka Ragnos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Marka Ragnos Posted August 17, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) NWA's debut hit hard ... Edited August 17, 2023 by Marka Ragnos 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designer1 Posted August 17, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Marka Ragnos said: NWA's debut hit hard ... That reminds me of another cracking debut... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted August 17, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Marka Ragnos said: I know someone who knew members of the band in those early days in Florida, and he said they were a local sensation as the "Mud diggers" or something like that. Mudcrutch. Essentially the Heartbreakers plus Tom Leadon (brother of Bernie Leadon of the Eagles). They reunited in more recent years and recorded two albums, plus a live EP, all of which are excellent. Edited August 17, 2023 by mjmooney 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted August 17, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) I really find myself struggling to accept many entries and their ranking on this Rolling Stone list ... of greatest debut albums. I suppose these lists are meant as conversation starters. What do you think of the rankings? I would never put the Ramones at No. 1. I would never even include the Strokes. Fionna Apple higher ranked than Run DMC?! No, no, no. Quote 2022 IS THE anniversary of some truly historic debuts — including classics by Pavement, Mary J Blige, Roxy Music, and the Clipse. So let’s break it down. Here are the 100 greatest out-of-the-box LP statements ever. What makes a killer debut album? First off, a sense of a band or artist arriving fully formed, ready to upend the game right at that very second. With that in mind, albums got knocked down a few slots if the artist went on to far greater achievements; conversely, we gave a little extra recognition to debuts that were so great you almost can’t fault the artist for not making anything as good for the rest of their career. EPs and mixtapes were not considered, and we skipped solo debuts by artists who were already in well-known bands, which is why you won’t see John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band, Paul Simon, or The Chronic. And please don’t @ us until you make sure your favorite band’s classic first album is actually, in fact, their first album. You’d be surprised: The road to unimpeachable greatness is often paved with forgotten false starts. These people nailed it on Day One. Edited August 17, 2023 by Marka Ragnos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 17, 2023 Moderator Share Posted August 17, 2023 23 minutes ago, Marka Ragnos said: I really find myself struggling to accept many entries and their ranking on this Rolling Stone list ... of greatest debut albums. I suppose these lists are meant as conversation starters. What do you think of the rankings? I would never put the Ramones at No. 1. I would never even include the Strokes. Fionna Apple higher ranked than Run DMC?! No, no, no. That’s only the current version of that list, they’ve redone it a number of times and albums have wildly moved in rankings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 14 hours ago, Seat68 said: In my opinion he didn't hit a bad patch. It's a great debut and then every album that followed didn't disappoint. I say every album, up to Therapy. I found Little Ship disappointing but requited love never produces the best art! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, MakemineVanilla said: I found Little Ship disappointing but requited love never produces the best art! I really loved I'm Alright so any follow ups had a lot to live up to. I remember listening to his albums in order and thought, I will hit something weak soon. I didn't. One Man Guy (by Rufus) is my all time favourite song, but as time has gone on LWIII's original is becoming my favoured version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Seat68 said: I really loved I'm Alright so any follow ups had a lot to live up to. I remember listening to his albums in order and thought, I will hit something weak soon. I didn't. One Man Guy (by Rufus) is my all time favourite song, but as time has gone on LWIII's original is becoming my favoured version. I heard Samson and the Warder on my brother's sampler as a kid and then became a real fan after seeing the BBC Sight and Sound performance. Rufus does a great version of One Man Guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 10 hours ago, Marka Ragnos said: I really find myself struggling to accept many entries and their ranking on this Rolling Stone list ... of greatest debut albums. I suppose these lists are meant as conversation starters. What do you think of the rankings? I would never put the Ramones at No. 1. I would never even include the Strokes. Fionna Apple higher ranked than Run DMC?! No, no, no. Some IMO awful shite in that list, I’ve only got twelve of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted August 18, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 18, 2023 14 hours ago, MakemineVanilla said: Loudon Wainwright III His debut album and its follow-up were both quite stark and bleak - 'serious' singer-songwriter stuff. But with the third one he took quite a noticeable swerve into more comic material, and never looked back. Anybody who can duet with Dame Edna gets my vote: 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted August 18, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 18, 2023 9 minutes ago, rjw63 said: Some IMO awful shite in that list, I’ve only got twelve of them. 22 for me (not counting a few that I bought on vinyl first time round, but got rid of and didn't upgrade* to CD). [* You heard me] 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, mjmooney said: 22 for me (not counting a few that I bought on vinyl first time round, but got rid of and didn't upgrade* to CD). [* You heard me] That’s criminal! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 18, 2023 Moderator Share Posted August 18, 2023 I have 31 from the ROlling Stones list (which is a shite list IMO 97. Arctic Monkeys 94. Arcade Fire 92. Yazoo 88. Violent Femmes 86. Killers 19. The Smiths 73. Pink FLoyd 67. Jeff Buckley 65. Oasis 63. NWA 62. Wire 59. Rage Against The Machine 58. The Slits 52. The Beat 51. Daft Punk 49. Gang of Four 48. Beastie Boys 45. Portishead 43. B52s 42. De La Soul 38. Television 36. X-Ray Spex 27. Led Zep 23. Sex :Pistols 17. Joy Division. 12. Steele Pulse 11 REM 9. The Clash 8. Guns and Roses 5. Patti Smith 3. Velvet Underground and Nico 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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