Kuwabatake Sanjuro Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Did they not get more for Mkhitaryan to Arsenal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 4 minutes ago, Genie said: McTominay is the 4th biggest sale United have ever done, that’s pretty astonishing Cristiano Ronaldo: £80 million Romelu Lukaku: £73 million Angel di Maria: £44 million Scott McTominay: £25.4 million Surely they didn't sell Van Nistelrooy to Real Madrid for about 20m?! He was only about 29 when he left them and had an incredible scoring record. Also Jaap Stam going to Lazio, they'll be others higher than McTominay. Beckham aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 €50m fee for Ugarte who flopped at PSG and cost them €60m. They are so bad at this still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 10 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Surely they didn't sell Van Nistelrooy to Real Madrid for about 20m?! He was only about 29 when he left them and had an incredible scoring record. Also Jaap Stam going to Lazio, they'll be others higher than McTominay. Beckham aswell. Beckham was just below £25m Wiki says RvM to Real Madrid was €14m, and JS to Lazio was about £16.5m. Stam and Beckham were both rushed through because SAF wanted them immediately gone. They could have got significantly more if they’d taken some time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Genie said: McTominay is the 4th biggest sale United have ever done, that’s pretty astonishing Cristiano Ronaldo: £80 million Romelu Lukaku: £73 million Angel di Maria: £44 million Scott McTominay: £25.4 million What's much more astonishing is that they got £73m for Lukaku. Edited August 28 by villa89 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 28 VT Supporter Share Posted August 28 25 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Surely they didn't sell Van Nistelrooy to Real Madrid for about 20m?! He was only about 29 when he left them and had an incredible scoring record. Also Jaap Stam going to Lazio, they'll be others higher than McTominay. Beckham aswell. 11 minutes ago, Genie said: Beckham was just below £25m Wiki says RvM to Real Madrid was €14m, and JS to Lazio was about £16.5m. Stam and Beckham were both rushed through because SAF wanted them immediately gone. They could have got significantly more if they’d taken some time. These all happened before football went a bit mental When Van Nistelrooy went to real madrid the transfer record was "only" 40 something million. Was probably in the 30s when Beckham went. 25m for Beckham at the time would have been a very big fee. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 12 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: These all happened before football went a bit mental When Van Nistelrooy went to real madrid the transfer record was "only" 40 something million. Was probably in the 30s when Beckham went. 25m for Beckham at the time would have been a very big fee. Am sure Zidane was still the record transfer for both them deals at about 45 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 1 hour ago, Genie said: Beckham was just below £25m Wiki says RvM to Real Madrid was €14m, and JS to Lazio was about £16.5m. Stam and Beckham were both rushed through because SAF wanted them immediately gone. They could have got significantly more if they’d taken some time. Beckham was 2003 I guess but even so under 25m back then when guys like Figo, Ronaldo and Zidane were moving to Real Madrid for 40-50m seems very undervalued especially given all the merchandise he'd rake in. I don't believe RVN for 10m. Considering he went to Real Madrid and then scored 25 goals in 37 games as they won the league that must be one of the bargains of all time between top clubs. Guess Man. United are still stuck in the Fergie era a bit where if you gave 5-6 good years of service and won plenty of trophies they'd pretty much let you go on a free or low fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 IIRC the Real Madrid chairman at the couldn’t believe he was offered Beckham for £25m. There was a quote where he said they made something like 10x that from shirt sales alone the moment it was announced. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Shows the level of scrutiny when you're still winning leagues and going deep in CL dosen't it? Man. United were doing that so hardly any scrutiny on their transfers in and out under SAF. Now they're struggling to even finish 5th in the league and so it fills the papers most days. Same for Chelsea as they were signing endless players to loan out in the Abramovich era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuwabatake Sanjuro Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 20 minutes ago, Genie said: IIRC the Real Madrid chairman at the couldn’t believe he was offered Beckham for £25m. There was a quote where he said they made something like 10x that from shirt sales alone the moment it was announced. Yeah but it set them backwards from a footballing perspective by having to accommodate him and selling Makelele. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 37 minutes ago, Kuwabatake Sanjuro said: Yeah but it set them backwards from a footballing perspective by having to accommodate him and selling Makelele. They probably need to sell Figo instead as he was starting to decline at top level but he was basically the reason Perez got the presidency so stayed a few more seasons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 44 minutes ago, VillaChris said: They probably need to sell Figo instead as he was starting to decline at top level but he was basically the reason Perez got the presidency so stayed a few more seasons. Figo was still better than Beckham at that stage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 They will miss Mctominay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuwabatake Sanjuro Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 16 minutes ago, VillaJ100 said: They will miss Mctominay I know they are getting stick for the Ugarte transfer but he will be a better workhorse. But it also means they have to drop Casemiro which they might not do considering his wages and transfer fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 4 hours ago, VillaChris said: Beckham was 2003 I guess but even so under 25m back then when guys like Figo, Ronaldo and Zidane were moving to Real Madrid for 40-50m seems very undervalued especially given all the merchandise he'd rake in. I don't believe RVN for 10m. Considering he went to Real Madrid and then scored 25 goals in 37 games as they won the league that must be one of the bargains of all time between top clubs. Guess Man. United are still stuck in the Fergie era a bit where if you gave 5-6 good years of service and won plenty of trophies they'd pretty much let you go on a free or low fee. Well and also there was no PSR so it just kind of didn't matter that much if you eked every last penny of value out of the transfer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 (edited) Fergie had enough of Beckham and basically booted him out the club. Same with Van Nistelrooy when he threw his toys out the pram at being left out the carling cup final? RVN is probably the best striker I've seen in the PL for pure goals, power and ruthless but United weren't actually a great side with him In it. I remember at the time the opinion was Ronaldo was developing and Ruud really was a fading force physically. It blew everyone's minds when he went to RM and pissed all over the league. But yeah if that's today they ain't being letting go cheaply. Fergie ran that place like his own personal corner shop. If he wanted you gone. You were done. Plus United had such a hold in terms of finance at the time they could write off a good chunk of potentual profit on sales. It really didn't matter. Edited August 29 by rodders0223 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 I really hope they sign Sterling. Would be hilarious ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 1 hour ago, rodders0223 said: Fergie had enough of Beckham and basically booted him out the club. Same with Van Nistelrooy when he threw his toys out the pram at being left out the carling cup final? RVN is probably the best striker I've seen in the PL for pure goals, power and ruthless but United weren't actually a great side with him In it. I remember at the time the opinion was Ronaldo was developing and Ruud really was a fading force physically. It blew everyone's minds when he went to RM and pissed all over the league. But yeah if that's today they ain't being letting go cheaply. Fergie ran that place like his own personal corner shop. If he wanted you gone. You were done. Plus United had such a hold in terms of finance at the time they could write off a good chunk of potentual profit on sales. It really didn't matter. I have huge respect for what Fergie did, it sent a message what the level was. No way in a million years would he have Rashford performing as he is. He’d demand the club move him on. Whilst it would look like a bad deal on paper financially they would be getting 100% out of everyone else so it pays for itself. That’s what SAF did with Beckham, Stam and RVN. When you’re done you’re gone regardless of what you’ve done in the past. Everyone knows you don’t piss about, and look at his results. It still blows my mind how mediocre some of his high performing teams were at player level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 That Europa draw on paper United ahould win all 8 but can see them winning 3 at most Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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