The_Steve Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 1 hour ago, Zatman said: It was still a higher percentage than what Ratcliffe owns But owning such a big stake in United cost billions. It’s not a small stake. They aren’t comparable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 28 minutes ago, viivvaa66 said: The UEFA rules are: Article 5 Integrity of the competition/multi-club ownership 5.01 To ensure the integrity of the UEFA club competitions (i.e. UEFA Champions League, UEFA Europa League and UEFA Conference League), the club must be able to prove that as at 3 June 2024 the below criteria are met and the club must continue to comply with the below criteria until the end of the competition: No club participating in a UEFA club competition may, either directly or indirectly: hold or deal in the securities or shares of any other club participating in a UEFA club competition; be a member of any other club participating in a UEFA club competition; be involved in any capacity whatsoever in the management, administration and/or sporting performance of any other club participating in a UEFA club competition; or have any power whatsoever in the management, administration and/or sporting performance of any other club participating in a UEFA club competition. No one may simultaneously be involved, either directly or indirectly, in any capacity whatsoever in the management, administration and/or sporting performance of more than one club participating in a UEFA club competition. No individual or legal entity may have control or influence over more than one club participating in a UEFA club competition, such control or influence being defined in this context as: holding a majority of the shareholders’ voting rights; having the right to appoint or remove a majority of the members of the administrative, management or supervisory body of the club; being a shareholder and alone controlling a majority of the shareholders’ voting rights pursuant to an agreement entered into with other shareholders of the club; or being able to exercise by any means a decisive influence in the decision-making of the club In other words it isn’t about how many shares you own, but how much influence you have over the club. Even if Ratcliffe only has a minority stake in ManU, he controls the football decisions. That means he has to sell enough shares in Nice so he no longer has control or influence in the decision making of Nice. Well according to that they must have bent the rules for us last season. They have also made compromises for other clubs with shared owners to play in the same competition. I presume they will find a solution for Man U as well. Man City/Girona will also need a similar work around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viivvaa66 Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 19 minutes ago, LondonLax said: Well according to that they must have bent the rules for us last season. They have also made compromises for other clubs with shared owners to play in the same competition. I presume they will find a solution for Man U as well. Man City/Girona will also need a similar work around. No, our owners reduced their stake in Vitoria, from 46% to 29% and at the same time left the board of directors, so they no longer had any influence over the club. UEFA have no objections if you own a minority stake in a second club if you have no control or influence over that club. The solution is always to not have control or influence over two clubs that compete in the same UEFA competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted June 3 VT Supporter Share Posted June 3 Really hope that Sancho to-sell-or-not-sell drama plays out all summer long. More chaos at United, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted June 3 VT Supporter Share Posted June 3 28 minutes ago, Marka Ragnos said: Really hope that Sancho to-sell-or-not-sell drama plays out all summer long. More chaos at United, please. If the Sancho to buy or not to buy drama is any clue, then we've got about another 2 years until it's sorted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted June 3 VT Supporter Share Posted June 3 (edited) You couldn't write this melodrama. If Sancho goes back to United, and sucks, I'm sure Manure fans will be understanding. Quote Jadon Sancho is ready to go back to Manchester United - but only if Erik ten Hag leaves this summer. Sancho has been a huge success during his six-month loan spell back at Borussia Dortmund and the German club would like to sign him on a permanent basis. But Dortmund are faced with two major obstacles in United’s price is almost certain to be too expensive for them to make it happen as it will be in excess of £50million. And England international Sancho, 24, is reluctant to give up on his United career and still has an ambition to make it work at Old Trafford. But there is also a realisation that Sancho will not have a future under current boss Ten Hag. Edited June 3 by Marka Ragnos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 £50m for Sancho would be a bargain, you don’t get much for that these days. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 4 hours ago, Genie said: £50m for Sancho would be a bargain, you don’t get much for that these days. He'd be a great get for so many teams. Frightening what he could become under Emery. However because Utd are stupid and don't have a clue what they're doing, they put him on £18m a year so no one will pay for him fully. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted June 4 VT Supporter Share Posted June 4 He will be on loan till ten haag leaves, then see if he can keep his powder dry for the new manager. Bad egg! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 2 hours ago, Nigel said: He will be on loan till ten haag leaves, then see if he can keep his powder dry for the new manager. Bad egg! Bad egg-head ETH? Or Bad egg Sancho? I know what the former is based on, but not the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted June 4 VT Supporter Share Posted June 4 (edited) 3 hours ago, Don_Simon said: Bad egg-head ETH? Or Bad egg Sancho? I know what the former is based on, but not the latter. Sancho is the bad egg for me! If you have to be loaned out due to an argument then you have to look in the mirror! Edited June 4 by Nigel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 5 hours ago, Nigel said: Sancho is the bad egg for me! If you have to be loaned out due to an argument then you have to look in the mirror! What if he was right and stood by his morales? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted June 4 VT Supporter Share Posted June 4 30 minutes ago, Don_Simon said: What if he was right and stood by his morales? Tbh honest i dont really care, just seems a bad egg to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 7 hours ago, Nigel said: Tbh honest i dont really care, just seems a bad egg to me. Hahahahaha! This is epic. We should do this more often. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobsons Choice Posted June 5 VT Supporter Share Posted June 5 Players picking and choosing which manager they want to perform for is exactly why Man U are in the toilet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobsons Choice Posted June 5 VT Supporter Share Posted June 5 Just heard that Bruno wants a new contract. By all accounts there will be clauses in it to include; £10,000 every time he moans to the ref, £50,000 per successful dive, and £15,000 for each time he whinges like a little bitch with his hands raised in the air while the opposition breaks on the counter. Shrewd move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 12 hours ago, Don_Simon said: What if he was right and stood by his morales? I can see why he'd be pissed off if he really felt he'd tried hard in training and ETH had a dig for no reason, but publicly arguing with your boss is a pretty stupid move even if you feel like you're in the right, and he had a couple of years of mediocre displays and long periods of going missing supported by the club at that point. Even Man United fans that want ETH gone don't seem to want Sancho back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oishiiniku_uk Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 They're apparently in talks to give Johnny Evans a new contract... Is this part of the bold, exciting strategy under Ineos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 9 minutes ago, oishiiniku_uk said: They're apparently in talks to give Johnny Evans a new contract... Is this part of the bold, exciting strategy under Ineos? Probably United best defender since Martinez always injured Says a lot about how they have build this squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 On 03/06/2024 at 19:40, Marka Ragnos said: You couldn't write this melodrama. If Sancho goes back to United, and sucks, I'm sure Manure fans will be understanding. He's not been a huge success at all. I few games he's been noticed, that's about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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