VillaChris Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 11 hours ago, Shropshire Lad said: This bigger club discussion makes me wonder...this is the third appointment that has broadly speaking been “wrong”. Hypothetically how many more appointments or how many more years would it take before Utd no longer hold their huge club status, are no longer the marketable global brand that they still are? Essentially get completely cut adrift from Liverpool, Man City etc and become like Everton. Five years? Ten years? Or is the size of the club so big that this isn’t a concern at all? They'll get one right eventually and I imagine that will mean they're back competiting for league and CL. It's a little like us and our useless managerial appointments since 2010. DS feels like a good 'un and that should mean we rise from now on. They gambled on Moyes from a Fergie hunch and that blew up. LVG was just too old and bat crazy when he turned up to work. I did think Mourinho would do well as it seemed to me he had the personality needed to manage Man. United and had won the league a year before at Chelsea but I was wrong. Their problem seems to be their timing has meant they've missed out on genuinely exciting managerial appointments with proper vision. When Fergie announced he was retiring Guardiola had already agreed to join Bayern so that was one lost and they still had LVG when Klopp was on his sabbatical. I can certainly see them going for Pochettino in the summer and he would suit them but good luck scrapping with Levy over him given how it's war when you try to sign a key player from them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 ManU were an also ran club until Ferguson arrived and if they become one again its no loss to football. Liverpool vs ManCity is a more interesting rivalry for the league anyway. Man U could get relegated to League 1 and I wouldnt give a toss. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheAuthority Posted December 19, 2018 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted December 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, ciggiesnbeer said: ManU were an also ran club until Ferguson arrived and if they become one again its no loss to football. Debatable. First English club to win the European Cup. Then the Munich air crash and the Busby Babes. They were still fashionable in the mid 80's under Big Ron. Couple of FA Cups and Bryan Robson as their (and Englands) captain. Played nice football at that point and had some very good players like Hughes, Whiteside, Olsen & a certain Paul McGrath. Fergie and the once in 5 generations of a youth team enabled them to dominate the 1st 20 years of the PL. That's helped them establish themselves financially as one of the top 3 clubs(brands) in the world. But I agree - they could go into the Vauxhall Conference as far as I'm concerned and I would be ecstatic. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted December 19, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted December 19, 2018 Started me thinking about that youth team. Anyone else remember Bobby Charlton's soccer schools? (Might still exist for all I know) They were very popular when I was a kid and it also served as a massive scouting network for Man Utd. Bit clever/naughty when you think about it. Big name ex-player getting all the young football players in the country to come on a footy camp for a week or two allowing you to pick the cream of the crop for trials at UTD. Beckham was certainly discovered that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 15 minutes ago, ciggiesnbeer said: ManU were an also ran club until Ferguson arrived and if they become one again its no loss to football. Liverpool vs ManCity is a more interesting rivalry for the league anyway. Man U could get relegated to League 1 and I wouldnt give a toss. Man City is everything United is, but produced out of thin air by an oil heir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted December 19, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted December 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Keyblade said: Man City is everything United is, but produced out of thin air by an oil heir. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 OGS as interim manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 1 minute ago, maqroll said: OGS as interim manager? Sure, why not? Will be good for a laugh if nothing else Oh god it looks like man U fans have found the "Shoot!!!!!" video a few years past its sell by date. I almost feel sorry for them. Almost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, TheAuthority said: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted December 19, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted December 19, 2018 32 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Man City is everything United is, but produced out of thin air by an oil heir. 30 minutes ago, TheAuthority said: If you notice in the GIF the guy has no, hair. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, TheAuthority said: If you notice in the GIF the guy has no, hair. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 The really is a OG hiring OGS. He flopped massively at Cardiff and has done nothing worthwhile since. Even bruce has more success in English football than.OGS. What a wierd appointment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HongKongVillan Posted December 19, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted December 19, 2018 Always thought Bryan Robson a decent manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Mike Phelan back on coaching team 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Just now, Zatman said: Mike Phelan back on coaching team I never understood why bruce never tried to get him in as I've heard he is a brilliant coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Ogs. I wouldn't have taken him here, he was an absolute disaster at Cardiff. They'll be in a relegation fight by March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 19, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted December 19, 2018 He might be ok as an interim to be fair. I always say, following a manager like Mourinho is when managers like Pardew and Sherwood get success (I'm not for one second suggesting United should hire them!) What I mean is teams that are playing for a manager with a particular style, disciplined, defensive fall into a rut and the results go south. Then you get a manager in who is the opposite of that. Old school "just go out and play!". And the players will flourish for a while because suddenly they don't have to play this awful, disciplined, defensive football. Long term it doesn't work because once that bounce wears off the managers don't have the tactical ability to halt the slide. But they usually get short term results. If OGS comes in and does that, I wouldn't be surprised to see them get significantly better in the short term, almost by accident. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sne Posted December 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 19, 2018 And in other news Jesse "JLingz" Lingard's "fashion" line has finally dropped I'll definitely be dropping £50 on a hoodie, £30 on a t-shirt and £25 on a cap for the privilege to wear some of Lingard's crap. Will go great with my Gabby Agbonlahor stuff... 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted December 19, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted December 19, 2018 (edited) Players bringing out a fashion line feels like the modern equivalent of when players used to release singles. Edit - thought I was in the “The Game’s Gone” thread. Edited December 19, 2018 by Shropshire Lad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 13 minutes ago, Shropshire Lad said: Players bringing out a fashion line feels like the modern equivalent of when players used to release singles. Edit - thought I was in the “The Game’s Gone” thread. TBF it kinda is 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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