Stevo985 Posted January 30, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted January 30, 2015 I don't have a "mancave" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I doWhat is the reasoning for women getting pension earlier despite having a longer life expectancy? This can of worms is already open now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baselayers Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 babies pulling your beard . Calm it, yewtree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I do What is the reasoning for women getting pension earlier despite having a longer life expectancy? This can of worms is already open now... Okay, if you insist but if I get jeered at and slagged off like I usually do, I'll blame you. It is a quirk of history, that when pensions were introduced women didn't get pensions and tended to be married to older men. So to enable a couple to retire roughly at the same time a married man of 65 would be given extra pension for his dependent wife, which he got when she reached the age of 60. When women were given pensions in their own right, they kept 60 as the retirement age. It was through anti-discrimination law that Europe ruled that the ages should be equalised and naturally the British government decided to raise it to 65 (now 68), rather than allowing men to retire at 60. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troon_villan Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Never gave it too much thought but 65 is too old for retirement. 60 is fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted January 30, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted January 30, 2015 Never gave it too much thought but 65 is too old for retirement. 60 is fair. That was exactly my thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 The retirement age is likely to keep increasing as life expectancy increases. I don't fancy working until I'm 75! 50 is a push! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 people talk about retirement like it's the afterlife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I'm looking forward to retirement. Just another 40 years and 6 months to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 The retirement age is likely to keep increasing as life expectancy increases. I don't fancy working until I'm 75! 50 is a push! I don't swallow the guff about increasing life-expectancy, not since I read J G Ballard's story, The Subliminal Man. The story is set in a typical Ballard dystopia where the need for constant growth of the capitalist system results in ever-increasing demands for consumption and ever-increasing working hours. This seemed exactly like what we are seeing now, where in an attempt to increase growth the government is increasing the population and has doubled the size of the working population by creating the circumstances where women have been pressured into the workforce. The government are trying to persuade people to defer their pension, with the promise of more in the future. Where a single wage could support a middle-class life-style back in the Seventies, it now takes two wages. Increasing the working life of every employee so as to produce and consume more seems exactly in line with Ballard's dystopia. So I think there is every reason to doubt this particular piece of propaganda. The whole system is geared to convincing everyone that consuming less is shameful, which traps people in work as they endlessly chase what we are told is the minimum respectable level. When Apple can enjoy a 40% mark-up on every phone, there is obviously something wrong. Right now Ballard's story seems very prescient. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley_crosses_to_Withe Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 'Easy peel' oranges that are as easy to peel as a snooker ball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 had a metric **** ton of wine from my parents who live in France, this was before christmas and we are down to the last box, I asked for as cheap as possible and that is what they got but its been the most flavourless shit wine I have ever had. I will be glad when its gone so I can finally get a bottle of something with actual taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidlewis Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 When you have a terrible dump where you keep wiping and it doesn't stop. You end up using half a bog roll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 When you have a terrible dump where you keep wiping and it doesn't stop. You end up using half a bog roll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Ordered something off net, to be delivered by Yodel. Its been in Leeds since Wednesday, not even made it to their sorting centre. I think the guy that collected it has nicked it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 **** yodel, I hate those pricks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Yep, fully agree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 When you have a terrible dump where you keep wiping and it doesn't stop. You end up using half a bog roll. Use wet wipes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Ordered something off net, to be delivered by Yodel. Its been in Leeds since Wednesday, not even made it to their sorting centre. I think the guy that collected it has nicked it. "There is a problem with your shipment, please contact the shipping company" Useless **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted January 31, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2015 Snow. fed up of it now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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