Seat68 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 7 minutes ago, bickster said: There's an official book for Scrabble And guess what... Any ideas why? It's a real word, it's not hyphenated, your grievance aside, why isn't it a valid Scrabble word? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 12 minutes ago, bickster said: There's an official book for Scrabble And guess what... Forget scrabble just missing underpromise to win bullshit bingo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 29, 2022 Moderator Share Posted July 29, 2022 11 minutes ago, Seat68 said: It's a real word, Because it isn't a real word. the word is outperform 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted July 29, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted July 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Stevo985 said: You can't sleep more than you sleep. Or extend more than you extend. Or act more than you act, os spend more than you spend, or burden more than you burden etc etc Actually, in at least some of these examples, you're right. So I withdraw my blanket endorsement of them. But I stand by "overachieve". And just because a word is in the Scrabble dictionary - or the OED, for that matter - that only means that it is in regular usage. It doesn't make it good English. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 29, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted July 29, 2022 1 hour ago, mjmooney said: Actually, in at least some of these examples, you're right. So I withdraw my blanket endorsement of them. But I stand by "overachieve". And just because a word is in the Scrabble dictionary - or the OED, for that matter - that only means that it is in regular usage. It doesn't make it good English. I don’t see the difference between any of them and “achieve”. The logic is exactly the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 29, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted July 29, 2022 3 hours ago, bickster said: To "overperform" it must be in relation to something and the word for that is outperform Fair enough, but I still don’t agree on the logic you use, which you extended to words like over spent. I don’t see why you’d be happy with “outperform” and not “overspent” Someone has performed. They can’t outperform Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted July 29, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted July 29, 2022 As an official self appointed mediator, I would like to point out that you are all bringing logic to a language discussion. This never ends well, if it all. Actually, yeah, there will be no resolution if you insist on using logic. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 29, 2022 Moderator Share Posted July 29, 2022 9 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Someone has performed. They can’t outperform And that is prescisely why, you outperform in comparison to a benchmark not just outperform 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il_serpente Posted July 29, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted July 29, 2022 Efficiency and ease of understanding at the expense of stodgy technical correctness within the English language is something up with which @bickster will not put. Apologies to Churchill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 29, 2022 Moderator Share Posted July 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, il_serpente said: Efficiency and ease of understanding at the expense of stodgy technical correctness within the English language Sorry but ease of understanding has nothing to do with it. It is impossible to outperform something that isn't stated, thats a lack of understanding, its not technical its an unfinished statement Aston Villa outperformed, makes absolutely no sense, What did they outperform? You need the qualifying benchmark for it to make any sense Aston VIlla outperformed their previous three seasons. If the word was overperform, it would be exactly the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mottaloo Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 I honestly thought I'd heard the last of this rooney/vardy bullshit....not even newsworthy.....am more pissed off that news channels thought it was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted July 29, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted July 29, 2022 The only thing I really can't get over is that @bickster actually gets pissed off about this. Christ, life is too short. Very appropriate for this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 29, 2022 Moderator Share Posted July 29, 2022 1 minute ago, sidcow said: The only thing I really can't get over is that @bickster actually gets pissed off about this. Christ, life is too short. Very appropriate for this thread. My internal monolgue shouts WHAT???? everytime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il_serpente Posted July 29, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted July 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, bickster said: My internal monolgue shouts WHAT???? everytime 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 29, 2022 Moderator Share Posted July 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, il_serpente said: You've overbiscuited there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted July 29, 2022 Moderator Share Posted July 29, 2022 1 hour ago, bickster said: Aston Villa outperformed, makes absolutely no sense, What did they outperform? Expectations, for example. That's pretty much the definition - it's a comparative term - "She outperformed her rivals in the contest" (as you said - I'm agreeing to be clear)). I'm with you on "overachieve" not being a proper word n'all, as well, though I've more sympathy with "he's an overachiever" - someone who consistently does better than people think they will, for example. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 29, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted July 29, 2022 1 hour ago, bickster said: And that is prescisely why, you outperform in comparison to a benchmark not just outperform So exactly the same reason you’d use overspend. But you weren’t happy with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post il_serpente Posted July 29, 2022 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted July 29, 2022 Give it up, lads. No matter how long you try to argue, he'll overlast you. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 1 minute ago, il_serpente said: Give it up, lads. No matter how long you try to argue, he'll overlast you. and it’s really boring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 29, 2022 Moderator Share Posted July 29, 2022 8 minutes ago, il_serpente said: Give it up, lads. No matter how long you try to argue, he'll still be overcorrect FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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