BOF Posted February 23, 2012 Moderator Share Posted February 23, 2012 The soldier can shoot back though. Which makes him fair game. Probably killed by people he was there to kill. They all knew the risks. The reporter didn't go there to kill anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irreverentad Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 So can the cameraman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 23, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted February 23, 2012 Inane work chat. Woman in my office just now: "My husband's just text me and said he's making fish pie tonight" Me: "Who the **** gives a shit you silly cow?!" Ok, I made up my bit, but it's what i was thinking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Story Toppers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 The soldier can shoot back though. Which makes him fair game. Probably killed by people he was there to kill. They all knew the risks. The reporter didn't go there to kill anyone. the reporter didn't have to go. John Simpson has a lot to answer for. The role is redundant largely nowadays anyway with modern media Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted February 23, 2012 Moderator Share Posted February 23, 2012 The role is redundant largely nowadays anyway with modern media You mean the media that toes the army line? Yeah, thanks media Sadly you're largely right though. There's very little chance of knowing what is actually going on in a war zone these days without having it vetted by the very people doing the deeds being reported on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted February 23, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted February 23, 2012 The soldier can shoot back though. Which makes him fair game. Probably killed by people he was there to kill. They all knew the risks. The reporter didn't go there to kill anyone. the reporter didn't have to go. John Simpson has a lot to answer for. The role is redundant largely nowadays anyway with modern media They all want to be Martha Gellhorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted February 23, 2012 Moderator Share Posted February 23, 2012 And no offence but the sentiment that the reporter "didn't have to be there" is a very weak argument in a free society, unless you don't want a free society in which case you are exactly right. Someone has to be there to report on and to see the goings on of both sides. Or do we want them accountable to no-one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Do they report the facts without spin ?? I very much doubt it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted February 23, 2012 Moderator Share Posted February 23, 2012 No they don't, because the army don't let them. But at least they are there witnessing it at the time. That in itself would probably keep manners on some of the more renegade activities. Whereas if they weren't present who knows what'd go on. Abu Ghraib would probably be standard fare. And anyway, the original point was about everyone signing up to their lot in life. Which means the dead war reporter and the dead soldier both signed up and knew the risks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Which means the dead war reporter and the dead soldier both signed up and knew the risks. 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theunderstudy Posted February 23, 2012 Author Share Posted February 23, 2012 The soldier can shoot back though. Which makes him fair game. Probably killed by people he was there to kill. They all knew the risks. The reporter didn't go there to kill anyone. So the reporter must be even more aware of the risks, really. The soldier is meant to be there. (Has to be there.) The reporter doesn't really. And as said, it's vetted anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted February 23, 2012 Moderator Share Posted February 23, 2012 Keep reading. We cover that later on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theunderstudy Posted February 23, 2012 Author Share Posted February 23, 2012 I did! I just pushed forward my own belated view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Look, I'm sorry she died, her family must be sad. But the cynic in me says, that's one less book at WHSmith this Christmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted February 23, 2012 Moderator Share Posted February 23, 2012 But the cynic in me says, that's one less book at WHSmith this Christmas Your cynic might be right. It's lucky that we'll never know what she learned. Phew! Info sux lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 I fear a book could be in the offing none the less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggyrichard Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 People who wear driving gloves! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted February 24, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted February 24, 2012 The fact that my only "unread" thread in OT at the moment is the golf one. I'm **** if I'm reading that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggyrichard Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 The fact that my only "unread" thread in OT at the moment is the golf one. I'm **** if I'm reading that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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