Things that piss you off that shouldn't

[HanoiVillan]

27 minutes ago, Ingram85 said:

Not an excuse but alcohol played a massive part in that. Whether we like it or not, people get pissed up and with that comes a loss of faculties in some people where as it doesn’t in others. Not brilliant I know.

Second part, I think we all agree with that tbh, I think the worry is that in the current social climate a lot of people don’t think most people do realise when something is just an error of judgement or a misreading of signals and are too quick to accuse people of something they aren’t guilty of. The danger is that that breeds resentment and a desensitisation when something real and harmful actually does happen. I find it all a mess when like you said in a previous post, it should be simple. 

 

On alcohol, you're right that it's a factor, but people just have to know themselves better. If someone can't handle their drink or they do this sort of thing/make that sort of comment when they're drunk, they just shouldn't be drinking with work colleagues, or possibly at all. 

I do see your point in your second paragraph. It's true that social norms in this area are massively in flux right now, and that it can feel at times like the ground is moving beneath our feet. Probably there will be occasions where people take their accusations too far, and where people end up suffering serious consequences. I know some people felt like that about Aziz Ansari; I didn't pay enough attention to the story to say for sure (and maybe we can't know for sure). But I think most reasonable women (and men) will ultimately understand the difference between 'misreading signals' (which can happen to basically anyone) and harassment. 

[Chindie]

Pardoning, particularly posthumously.

There's a debate now about pardoning suffragettes. Not only is the debate **** pointless, pardons are almost an insult. The suffragettes fought for something that was right, and the state didn't like it. Pardons don't wipe that away, the criminality should be worn in history as a page of honour for those names and one of shame for the country. Just like the pardoning of Turing. It's a pardon for the state.

[Davkaus]

Not how I see it, really.

I've seen comments regarding Turing along the lines of "well he knew what the law was...". Pardoning is a public statement that it doesn't matter what the laws of the land were, those laws were abhorrent, and we're ashamed of our predecessors who treated people that way.

Nobody is pretending it takes back what happened, and it doesn't lessen the impact of what people like the suffragettes did by saying "we were wrong to criminalise them". 

[snowychap]

1 minute ago, Davkaus said:

Not how I see it, really.

I've seen comments regarding Turing along the lines of "well he knew what the law was...". Pardoning is a public statement that it doesn't matter what the laws of the land were, those laws were abhorrent, and we're ashamed of our predecessors who treated people that way.

Nobody is pretending it takes back what happened, and it doesn't lessen the impact of what people like the suffragettes did by saying "we were wrong to criminalise them". 

Are they planning to change the laws on criminal damage, arson, &c.?

[chrisp65]

Dame Shirley Williams on the radio this morning said they was no point in pardoning the suffragettes, as they hadn't done anything wrong so there was nothing to pardon.

I think I'm with Shirley.

[Chindie]

5 minutes ago, Davkaus said:

Not how I see it, really.

I've seen comments regarding Turing along the lines of "well he knew what the law was...". Pardoning is a public statement that it doesn't matter what the laws of the land were, those laws were abhorrent, and we're ashamed of our predecessors who treated people that way.

Nobody is pretending it takes back what happened, and it doesn't lessen the impact of what people like the suffragettes did by saying "we were wrong to criminalise them". 

All pardoning does is say 'we'll let you off'. The acts are still convictions. They're just forgiven.

It does nothing but make the state somewhat forgive itself, in turn lessening the force of their actions in history. It shouldn't have happened with Turing and it shouldn't happen here. It's to the state's shame that these women felt forced to break the law to get what is only right. Pardoning does nothing.

It's even worse that the government that will do it is, again, one that those they pardon are likely to dislike.

Don't pardon them. Laud their sacrifice.

[Genie]

On 05/02/2018 at 12:37, Seat68 said:

Hackers who all seem to have Aspergers.

Bit like all the professional athletes with heart conditions and asthma

[HanoiVillan]

8 minutes ago, Genie said:

Bit like all the professional athletes with heart conditions and asthma

Yeah, it's a real bizarre coincidence that all of the male asthma-sufferers in Europe gather together each summer for a refreshing trip over a selections of French cols. 

[Genie]

2 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said:

Yeah, it's a real bizarre coincidence that all of the male asthma-sufferers in Europe gather together each summer for a refreshing trip over a selections of French cols. 

It’s a miracle!!!!

[maqroll]

All the shitty titles on Netflix

[Vive_La_Villa]

Alcohol brings out the worst in people. I made such at scene at a company wide dinner several years ago (and said some home truth to senior directors) that when I come in to work after the weekend the manager took my badge and escorted me out of the building! 

Beat that! 

Edit: I should add I was leaving in 2 weeks anyway. I was just allowed to leave earlier with some garden leave. Result! 

Edited February 6, 2018 by Vive_La_Villa

[NurembergVillan]

When you report a crime related to a violent domestic disturbance, specifically ask for anonymity as you're related to those involved, and the Old Bill rock round, knock on the door and say "we've had a report from [NurembergVillan]..."

I mean, I'm not trained to be a copper - and I'm sure it's a very hard job - but surely that's something they'd teach you in the first **** session?

[chrisp65]

Just now, NurembergVillan said:

When you report a crime related to a violent domestic disturbance, specifically ask for anonymity as you're related to those involved, and the Old Bill rock round, knock on the door and say "we've had a report from [NurembergVillan]..."

I mean, I'm not trained to be a copper - and I'm sure it's a very hard job - but surely that's something they'd teach you in the first **** session?

My sympathies.

We once reported a flat full thieves across the road from where we lived. The police bundled them all in to a van directly outside our house, knocked on our door and asked if we'd be prepared to stick by our initial report. Literally told the guy to go **** himself for doing that.

[NurembergVillan]

22 minutes ago, chrisp65 said:

My sympathies.

We once reported a flat full thieves across the road from where we lived. The police bundled them all in to a van directly outside our house, knocked on our door and asked if we'd be prepared to stick by our initial report. Literally told the guy to go **** himself for doing that.

Idiots.  It's not the first time something like this has happened to me - similar to your experience.  I witnessed joyriders crashing a car.  They hung around for a bit with a load of their mates.  Cops show up and I tell them who was driving.  They approach the guys who deny it.  Officer points to me and says "He said he saw you get out of the vehicle".

I probably won't bother reporting anything again now.  Not worth the stress.

[StefanAVFC]

I play 6 a side futsal with some people from work. Random teams.

There's a guy who comes and I have no idea why he comes.

You can be totally crap and love football; cool whatever, have fun.

But this guy...

- Runs away from the ball
- Doesn't mark anybody
- Doesn't run (my biggest pet peev, especially in futsal)
- When he gets the ball, boots it away immediately in no particular direction
- Looks at your blankly when you give him any sort of direction
- Stands in your space
- Chases men who have the ball

What's the point? It's worse than playing 5v6. Even when we stick him in goal, he gets the ball and just boots it forward even with a simple pass next to him.

Edited February 6, 2018 by StefanAVFC

[NurembergVillan]

1 minute ago, StefanAVFC said:

I play 6 a side futsal with some people from work. Random teams.

There's a guy who comes and I have no idea why he comes.

You can be totally crap and love football; cool whatever, have fun.

But this guy...

- Runs away from the ball
- Doesn't mark anybody
- Doesn't run (my biggest pet peev, especially in futsal)
- When he gets the ball, boots it away immediately in no particular direction
- Looks at your blankly when you give him any sort of direction
- Stands in your space
- Chases men who have the ball

What's the point? It's worth than playing 5v6. Even when we stick him in goal, he gets the ball and just boots it forward even with a simple pass next to him.

[rodders0223]

13 hours ago, StefanAVFC said:

I play 6 a side futsal with some people from work. Random teams.

There's a guy who comes and I have no idea why he comes.

You can be totally crap and love football; cool whatever, have fun.

But this guy...

- Runs away from the ball
- Doesn't mark anybody
- Doesn't run (my biggest pet peev, especially in futsal)
- When he gets the ball, boots it away immediately in no particular direction
- Looks at your blankly when you give him any sort of direction
- Stands in your space
- Chases men who have the ball

What's the point? It's worse than playing 5v6. Even when we stick him in goal, he gets the ball and just boots it forward even with a simple pass next to him.

I have played with a few and really I have no idea what they get out of it.

They will pick up the ball , you are to the side of them in clear view, you scream at them to give you the ball, you scream time,  you do everything you can to let them know you are available...and they still just punt the ball as far as possible.
Then they get really annoyed, you shout, then you feel bad.

I am all for people keeping fit, and having a bit of fun...but I want to **** win too and I won't apologise for that!

Edited February 7, 2018 by rodders0223

[Rob182]

14 hours ago, StefanAVFC said:

I play 6 a side futsal with some people from work. Random teams.

There's a guy who comes and I have no idea why he comes.

You can be totally crap and love football; cool whatever, have fun.

But this guy...

- Runs away from the ball
- Doesn't mark anybody
- Doesn't run (my biggest pet peev, especially in futsal)
- When he gets the ball, boots it away immediately in no particular direction
- Looks at your blankly when you give him any sort of direction
- Stands in your space
- Chases men who have the ball

What's the point? It's worse than playing 5v6. Even when we stick him in goal, he gets the ball and just boots it forward even with a simple pass next to him.

Can you please record your next match? It sounds hilarious.

 

I always want the ref in football matches to randomly hoof the ball in an 'Ave it!" stylie, just once or twice for a laugh.

[Stevo985]

I once got booked in a 5 aside game and I'm livid about it to this day.

Only four of our players turned up so we were already a man down. We were playing the team top of the league who were all teenagers, and we were shit, old men. So naturally it was a disaster. We were about 15-3 behind or something in the second half and we were all completely ****.

So I asked the ref if he could just blow up early, but he said he had to play the full game because it would help the other team's goal difference.

So next time the game restarted (a kick off to us of course) I just booted the ball as far as I could. Over the fence into the wilderness. Someone had to go get it but it gave us a rest and wasted some time.
2 minutes later I did it again and got booked for it.

I'm still annoyed by that. What rule had I broken? I can see why he did it, but I thought I was being clever.

[Rodders]

Ha, yes, the crafty smash it unnecessarily hard out of play to get a breather, I think we've all done that  I've seen people aim for rivers before. 

One today, (fellow) pedestrians who slow down and pause as they approach a zebra crossing. I mean I understand it from a reflexive "hang on a minute there are cars about" survival attitude, but surely you know it's your right of way - this is compounded in this example by the fact the roads are a slow one way system where cars are travelling no more than 5-10 miles an hour at this point, and I can see the car approaching slowing down, in expectation that the human would keep on walking. I suspect it should annoy the car driver more than myself, but I just feel irrationally annoyed on their behalf. Keep going mate!