Things that piss you off that shouldn't

[chrisp65]

There was an interesting article in the 'paper yesterday about One Direction and their new album. It essentially said that OD have a new album but the launch has been quite subdued as they don't really make much money from record sales. They just need new material to begin the move into an older age bracket of fans, the typical arc undertaken by boy bands of being truly awful and cheesey but then somehow, over time, appearing to have matured and having a job for life on the more mature blockbuster tour circuit (a la Take That model).

 

The article mentioned that they had decided that they would limit their UK publicity to 2 or 3 things, including making sure they were available for the Band Aid 30 thing.

 

Other than that, they were off to conquer South America and Asia.

 

I thought that was a fascinating little glimpse into the mindset of big music.

 

But hey, if it makes a pound for charity that otherwise wouldn't have been delivered by any other means, best of luck to 'em all. 

[Rob182]

Band Aid 30, Bob Geldof and every free publicity seeking clearing in the woods celebrity who took part.

Congratulations you waited what 8 weeks to get your fingers out for your PR/ego trip.

Equally....everyone who buys it. If you really gave a toss about Ebola yiud have donated weeks ago. Not waited for a collection of bellends to record a shitter version of a shit song with some horribly cheesy rewritten lyrics.

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You're right Eames, that shouldn't piss you off. At all. Down with charity!! If you didn't give money to charity when the problem first started, don't try and give money now!!

[Eames]

Band Aid 30, Bob Geldof and every free publicity seeking clearing in the woods celebrity who took part.

Congratulations you waited what 8 weeks to get your fingers out for your PR/ego trip.

Equally....everyone who buys it. If you really gave a toss about Ebola yiud have donated weeks ago. Not waited for a collection of bellends to record a shitter version of a shit song with some horribly cheesy rewritten lyrics.

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You're right Eames, that shouldn't piss you off. At all. Down with charity!! If you didn't give money to charity when the problem first started, don't try and give money now!!

I dont wish to appear down with charity....thats not the point Im making....its the gross cynical commercialisation of the whole issue.

The response is late since the infection rate iirc is already declining and will no doubt claim all the credit for solving the problem because you know, some singers sang a bad song badly.

Im not saying dont donate...but why do people need Geldof to motivate them to support and issue that's been a rolling news item for 6 weeks.

[Rob182]

My point is, who cares? So some pop stars will think they've contributed more than they have? So **** what? So it's been promotes on the evil X Factor, that all the cool VT kids hate. Again, so what? If people haven't donated (whether that's because they 'forgot', they donate to other causes already, or they have enough going on in their lives to deal with), this might push them to do so. I wouldn't say people need someone to motivate them to donate, more that they need a reminder. If that's while they're sat watching some trash TV on a Sunday night, then I'm all for it!

[Stevo985]

To be fair, most of the artists involved don't really need the publicity.

Afraid I can't agree with you here eames.

Be annoyed that people haven't donated already. But I don't think you can have a go at those producing the single. It'll raise millions.

[lapal_fan]

My point is, who cares? So some pop stars will think they've contributed more than they have? So **** what? So it's been promotes on the evil X Factor, that all the cool VT kids hate. Again, so what? If people haven't donated (whether that's because they 'forgot', they donate to other causes already, or they have enough going on in their lives to deal with), this might push them to do so. I wouldn't say people need someone to motivate them to donate, more that they need a reminder. If that's while they're sat watching some trash TV on a Sunday night, then I'm all for it!

 

I think that's the most important thing.  If people think "I haven't really got the extra income to donate a few quid to charity", but they like the song and spend a bit of money on the single, then they've donated.

 

I don't care if it's a guy outside Tesco's with a bucket or Band Aid, if some poor sucker in Africa can have another chance at life with his/her kids, then I'm all for it.

 

I would agree however, that if any of the Band Aid cast became holier than thou about it, then they can go away. 

Edited November 17, 2014 by lapal_fan

[Genie]

Can't see much wrong with what Sir Bob is doing here. Raising money and awareness for a worthwhile cause...?

[Stevo985]

And, tin hat on, I actually quite like the Band Aid Song

[chrisp65]

I have formally issued my definitive christmas prezzie wish list via the usual communication channels. This is approximately a month earlier than usual.

 

Now, if I want to buy some music, tee shirts or sex toys in the next 6 weeks, I have to go 'off list'.

 

I didn't fully think this through.

[tonyh29]

To be fair, most of the artists involved don't really need the publicity.

Afraid I can't agree with you here eames.

Be annoyed that people haven't donated already. But I don't think you can have a go at those producing the single. It'll raise millions.

 

 

whilst I won't decry the good they do in taking part   ( well i would , but that's a whole new thread ) , the cynic in me suspects any artist taking part in charity is first and foremost doing it for the exposure they get from it 

 

U2 wouldn't have turned into the worlds biggest group without Live Aid  , Queen and Madonna were others who did well out of it in terms of record sale spikes  .. and probably most of the artists saw a bounce in their popularity as a result of taking part  ... tbf they may not have anticipated this with Live Aid as it was the first of it's kind to a degree , but future events will have had artists aware of its impact

 

same with children in need  ... Gervais may work for free , but he sells another few thousand DVD's on the back of it  ... great if he gives a cut of those sales to the charity  , only he will know if he does or not 

 

 

I'd be more impressed if these artists wrote a cheque for £x million pound out of their vast fortunes rather than donated some of their time and made more money on the back of it

Edited November 17, 2014 by tonyh29

[useless]

I read that a band called Bastille, pulled out of two arena conerts in the US to take part, I've never heard of them so I'm presuming their taking part won't make that much of a difference to sales. So surely they would have been better off just doing their concerts and donating the money. I think they all really care about helping with Ebola but some of them are happy to get some exposure too.

[Stevo985]

I read that a band called Bastille, pulled out of two arena conerts in the US to take part, I've never heard of them so I'm presuming their taking part won't make that much of a difference to sales. So surely they would have been better off just doing their concerts and donating the money. I think they all really care about helping with Ebola but some of them are happy to get some exposure too.

Bastille are one of the most popular bands in the country at the moment.

[Stevo985]

 

To be fair, most of the artists involved don't really need the publicity.

Afraid I can't agree with you here eames.

Be annoyed that people haven't donated already. But I don't think you can have a go at those producing the single. It'll raise millions.

 

 

whilst I won't decry the good they do in taking part   ( well i would , but that's a whole new thread ) , the cynic in me suspects any artist taking part in charity is first and foremost doing it for the exposure they get from it 

 

U2 wouldn't have turned into the worlds biggest group without Live Aid  , Queen and Madonna were others who did well out of it in terms of record sale spikes  .. and probably most of the artists saw a bounce in their popularity as a result of taking part  ... tbf they may not have anticipated this with Live Aid as it was the first of it's kind to a degree , but future events will have had artists aware of its impact

 

same with children in need  ... Gervais may work for free , but he sells another few thousand DVD's on the back of it  ... great if he gives a cut of those sales to the charity  , only he will know if he does or not 

 

 

I'd be more impressed if these artists wrote a cheque for £x million pound out of their vast fortunes rather than donated some of their time and made more money on the back of it

 

I'm not saying they DON'T benefit from it. And if we're honest, they probably all know they'll benefit from them. But it's still benefit from doing a good thing.

 

It's like a business doing some huge charity drive. Is it doing it because it really cares? Probably not. It's doing it for the good will it will get.

 

But I still think it's more of a good gesture than not. And like I said, it's not like artists like One Direction, Coldplay, U2, Rita Ora, Sam Smith, Bastille etc are struggling for popularity right now. I'm sure VT will hate all of their music because people have heard of them, but you can't deny how popular they are.

 

It's more their popularity making the single sell than the other way round, imo.

 

 

And for your final point, I'd be very surprised if everyone involved hasn't made a serious donation on the back of it. If they haven't, then that very much is something to be annoyed about.

Edited November 17, 2014 by Stevo985

[useless]

 

I read that a band called Bastille, pulled out of two arena conerts in the US to take part, I've never heard of them so I'm presuming their taking part won't make that much of a difference to sales. So surely they would have been better off just doing their concerts and donating the money. I think they all really care about helping with Ebola but some of them are happy to get some exposure too.

Bastille are one of the most popular bands in the country at the moment.

 

 

I didn't mean because I hadn't heard of them that they must be rubbish, just presumed I would have come across them if they were that big of a group, obviously I'm wrong about that, if their fans donate because of it then I'm sure it'll be a good thing.

[troon_villan]

 

 

I read that a band called Bastille, pulled out of two arena conerts in the US to take part, I've never heard of them so I'm presuming their taking part won't make that much of a difference to sales. So surely they would have been better off just doing their concerts and donating the money. I think they all really care about helping with Ebola but some of them are happy to get some exposure too.

Bastille are one of the most popular bands in the country at the moment.

 

 

I didn't mean because I hadn't heard of them that they must be rubbish, just presumed I would have come across them if they were that big of a group, obviously I'm wrong about that, if their fans donate because of it then I'm sure it'll be a good thing.

 

 

Christ I'm getting old.  I've heard of them but I couldn't name a single song!

[villa4europe]

 

I read that a band called Bastille, pulled out of two arena conerts in the US to take part, I've never heard of them so I'm presuming their taking part won't make that much of a difference to sales. So surely they would have been better off just doing their concerts and donating the money. I think they all really care about helping with Ebola but some of them are happy to get some exposure too.

Bastille are one of the most popular bands in the country at the moment.

 

 

yep they are one of the biggest bands in the country

 

but they are utter **** garbage but the PR machine that runs music in this country use their cronies such as radio 1 djs to not only force feed you their shit music but constantly dribble about how they are your new favourite band

 

im guessing the 1975 are on this single too? 

[Frobisher]

I read that a band called Bastille, pulled out of two arena conerts in the US to take part, I've never heard of them so I'm presuming their taking part won't make that much of a difference to sales. So surely they would have been better off just doing their concerts and donating the money. I think they all really care about helping with Ebola but some of them are happy to get some exposure too.

Bastille are one of the most popular bands in the country at the moment.

yep they are one of the biggest bands in the country

but they are utter **** garbage but the PR machine that runs music in this country use their cronies such as radio 1 djs to not only force feed you their shit music but constantly dribble about how they are your new favourite band

im guessing the 1975 are on this single too?

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I'm no fan, but Pompeii is a catchy song.

[useless]

I've since listened to Pompeii (156 million views on youtube) and it's absolutley dreadful, just goes to show what marketing can do. Watching the video of Band Aid 30 I think it highlights the lack of Pop stars in UK music right now, it's even got the guy from The Doves in it.

Edited November 17, 2014 by useless

[Stevo985]

I've since listened to Pompeii (156 million views on youtube) and it's absolutley dreadful, just goes to show what marketing can do. Watching the video of Band Aid 30 I think it highlights the lack of Pop stars in UK music right now, it's even got the guy from The Doves in it.

Or it shows how old we're getting

 

I'd say UK Pop is arguably as popular as it's ever been internationally if you're going purely on figures. 

VT may hate all of them, but they're phenomenally popular.

[chrisp65]

I don't think VT has a 'pop chart' demographic.

 

The very fact I had to correct that line from my original 'top of the pops demographic' suggests there is no point in me trying to identify the acts on that video.