Genie Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 48 minutes ago, The_Steve said: The league could still kick the owners out if they lied about connection to the Saudi state. Just because the Saudis aren’t on a sanctions list doesn’t mean the League cannot invalidate it if they find impropriety. Not saying it will happen but it’s not impossible. That would be interesting, I assume the “absolutely not involved” Saudi government would then get involved and pressure the FA and UK government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 1 hour ago, The_Steve said: The league could still kick the owners out if they lied about connection to the Saudi state. Just because the Saudis aren’t on a sanctions list doesn’t mean the League cannot invalidate it if they find impropriety. Not saying it will happen but it’s not impossible. I'd like that. But I think if the state are not arms length enough from the board, they'll just appoint a different board and retain ownership - that would satisfy all parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Genie said: That would be interesting, I assume the “absolutely not involved” Saudi government would then get involved and pressure the FA and UK government. A convenient international friendly between England and Saudi Arabia in Riyadh will be arranged 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 If they're not allowed to have their football club they could buy their bombs from elsewhere I'm sure that threat would sway the public opinion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 What a season they’ve had. I think this year is perhaps the last year where you can kinda separate the ownership from what’s happened on the pitch, not entirely of course but they haven’t even begun to flex the muscle they now have with the Saudi backing (expect that to change, drastically, in the summer). Excellent defence (except for when we tore them apart), good going forward and scoring good quality goals too. Isak looks to be turning into a world class player and unfortunately it just has to be said that Eddie Howe has been a revelation there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 4 hours ago, The_Steve said: The league could still kick the owners out if they lied about connection to the Saudi state. Just because the Saudis aren’t on a sanctions list doesn’t mean the League cannot invalidate it if they find impropriety. Not saying it will happen but it’s not impossible. The FA new full well the situation with the Saudis, they turned them down for over a year. Then the UK government got involved and told the FA to approve it anyway, so they are approved… 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 Yes they bring in so much money neither the government or FA will do anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 56 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: What a season they’ve had. I think this year is perhaps the last year where you can kinda separate the ownership from what’s happened on the pitch, not entirely of course but they haven’t even begun to flex the muscle they now have with the Saudi backing (expect that to change, drastically, in the summer). Excellent defence (except for when we tore them apart), good going forward and scoring good quality goals too. Isak looks to be turning into a world class player and unfortunately it just has to be said that Eddie Howe has been a revelation there. Not sure you can separate it entirely. They bought players that had this seasons FFP amortisation partially offset by their dodgy self-interest sleeve sponsorship deal. Also probably persuaded a lot of their signings to join on the grounds of the future spends they'll be making through their future dodgy deals. Wouldn't put it past them to have off the book deals with players in Saudi funds. Innocent until proven guilty but seeing what City did I wouldn't be shocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 16 minutes ago, MrBlack said: Not sure you can separate it entirely. They bought players that had this seasons FFP amortisation partially offset by their dodgy self-interest sleeve sponsorship deal. Also probably persuaded a lot of their signings to join on the grounds of the future spends they'll be making through their future dodgy deals. Wouldn't put it past them to have off the book deals with players in Saudi funds. Innocent until proven guilty but seeing what City did I wouldn't be shocked. Well, yeah. Hence the ‘kinda’ part of my post. It’s obviously had an influence but I think they’re there on merit, sadly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fightoffyour Posted April 28, 2023 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted April 28, 2023 Just our tonight in wroclaw and a group of about 30 lads who sounded like they’re from the Newcastle direction walked past and after they all just about go out of ear shot i shouted “get back to Middlesbrough you words removed” hahahah it was class best day of my life 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 18 hours ago, LondonLax said: The FA new full well the situation with the Saudis, they turned them down for over a year. Then the UK government got involved and told the FA to approve it anyway, so they are approved… The Tory intervention is a major stain on the game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 7 minutes ago, The_Steve said: The Tory intervention is a major stain on the game. Wasnt a Labour MP the one who kept campaigning for it as she was anti Ashley 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted April 29, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted April 29, 2023 https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/newcastle-agree-25m-a-year-shirt-sponsorship-with-middle-east-company-3v7gtlzgd "Newcastle agree £25m a year shirt sponsorship with a Middle East firm." Only surprise is that it's not higher. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 49 minutes ago, The_Steve said: The Tory intervention is a major stain on the game. 41 minutes ago, Zatman said: Wasnt a Labour MP the one who kept campaigning for it as she was anti Ashley It was both, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 8 minutes ago, Rds1983 said: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/newcastle-agree-25m-a-year-shirt-sponsorship-with-middle-east-company-3v7gtlzgd "Newcastle agree £25m a year shirt sponsorship with a Middle East firm." Only surprise is that it's not higher. It is still a 300% increase on what they were getting this season (£8m). I wonder who financed their agreement with Fun88 to end their sponsorship deal with them two years early. It will be interesting to find out what this Middle Eastern country (that is apparently not Saudi Arabia) is and what links the "Middle East firm" may or may not have with Saudi Arabia’s public investment fund (PIF). Newcastle insist that the new agreement will fall inside the Premier League’s “fair market value”. They would say that wouldn't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 So basically if they get Champs league and do ok in it they will earn around 80 mill more than us next season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Can't wait for their £25m/year official desalination partner deal to be revealed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 29 minutes ago, John said: It is still a 300% increase on what they were getting this season (£8m). I wonder who financed their agreement with Fun88 to end their sponsorship deal with them two years early. It will be interesting to find out what this Middle Eastern country (that is apparently not Saudi Arabia) is and what links the "Middle East firm" may or may not have with Saudi Arabia’s public investment fund (PIF). Newcastle insist that the new agreement will fall inside the Premier League’s “fair market value”. They would say that wouldn't they? If its a non affiliated company it doesn't have to be fair market value. They only have to have the self owning deals verified by the PL. They'll have done everything they can to disguise the fact that this shirt funding is directly (or maybe even indirectly) funded by the PIF. Disgusting. No way they get 25m if they're not owned by Saudi Arabia. The league need to hang their heads in shame. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 When I say indirectly, what will happen is the Saudi PIF will have some deal with the company/country that is sponsoring the shirts, which will be the equivalent value to that company of the amount theyre paying for shirt sponsorship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted April 29, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted April 29, 2023 The fans arguing it is a fair amount as they're now a Champs League club and their peers are all on £40-70m a year. Getting slightly ahead of themselves there and ignoring the fact that clubs like Utd and Liverpool have 10 times the number of fans they have around the world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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