Demitri_C Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 Im sorry but the corruption is just blatent now. How is that given? You have **** VAR. Im sick of this kind of bullshit There is no excuse for these kind of errors. None 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 On 26/10/2023 at 21:34, AvfcRigo82 said: ..and now they moan about injuries. We've had 3 key players missing practically all of this season. Don't hear us moaning though. “Mings got injured yeah but we smashed you 5-1, injuries don’t make a difference” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Im sorry but the corruption is just blatent now. How is that given? You have **** VAR. Im sick of this kind of bullshit There is no excuse for these kind of errors. None Perspective is a confusing thing, that isn't clearly out of play, it's impossible to tell from that image 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 The push is worse That's not a hard decision 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 22 minutes ago, Davkaus said: Perspective is a confusing thing, that isn't clearly out of play, it's impossible to tell from that image Thats clear as day to me, thwn you got the clear elbow that isnt a red. Connect the dots... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Davkaus Posted November 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Thats clear as day to me I agree abut the red card, but you're just wrong to be confident about the ball being out, you can't tell, no matter how sure you are. I know me just saying that won't convince you, so I've done a small demonstration to prove it to you. Please excuse the child's light-up ball as a demonstration tool, and the curry tub in the background. Here's a ball with a line, towards us is "in". The ball is clearly out of play, you can see grass between the ball and the line. Here it is from the only important angle, one directly above, and it's clearly in. Any angle other than immediately above can be incredibly misleading to the human eye. Edited November 4, 2023 by Davkaus 5 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 It’s the angle, there will be a slither of the ball still on part of the line, Be In sports have shown a Hawkeye kind of image. A very similar situation happened in the World Cup with a Japan goal that effectively put Germany out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: Im sorry but the corruption is just blatent now. How is that given? You have **** VAR. Im sick of this kind of bullshit There is no excuse for these kind of errors. None You can't tell from that angle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 (edited) 32 minutes ago, duke313 said: You can't tell from that angle I can looks off as hell to me Edited November 4, 2023 by Demitri_C 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Davkaus Posted November 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2023 Don't know why I bothered 1 26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oishiiniku_uk Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 The ball being in/out of play is a moot point because the shove on Gabriel was blatant. Joelinton didn't even try and get the ball, was purely focused on fouling the opponent. How VAR can clear that is beyond me. And Bruno running around elbowing people and getting no punishment. What a joke. This coming just the week after the penalty they were awarded that was a blatant dive as well. Just how much 'luck' can one team get, eh? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: I can looks off as hell to me yet BEIN Sports image from the Premier League said it was in Edited November 4, 2023 by Zatman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted November 5, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 5, 2023 8 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Im sorry but the corruption is just blatent now. How is that given? You have **** VAR. Im sick of this kind of bullshit There is no excuse for these kind of errors. None 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancvillan Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, Davkaus said: I agree abut the red card, but you're just wrong to be confident about the ball being out, you can't tell, no matter how sure you are. I know me just saying that won't convince you, so I've done a small demonstration to prove it to you. Please excuse the child's light-up ball as a demonstration tool, and the curry tub in the background. Here's a ball with a line, towards us is "in". The ball is clearly out of play, you can see grass between the ball and the line. Here it is from the only important angle, one directly above, and it's clearly in. Any angle other than immediately above can be incredibly misleading to the human eye. This is a Herculean effort and much respect is due. That said, I hate you for having this much spare time in your life. You could've been babysitting my kids. Edited November 5, 2023 by Vancvillan spell check is [redacted] 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delboy54 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Good demo about the perspective of where you view the relationship between the ball and the line, Davkaus. The camera has to be in the right position to be able to give the correct decision. This is why almost every "offside" that is checked by VARs is a sham, as rarely is the camera in the perfect position to be correctly judged on or offside. Therefore this becomes subjective decision and open to corruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmygreaves Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 The ball was probably just about in play but the foul by Joelinton and Gordon being offside should have been plenty to disallow the goal. Absolutely amazed it was allowed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 22 minutes ago, jimmygreaves said: The ball was probably just about in play but the foul by Joelinton and Gordon being offside should have been plenty to disallow the goal. Absolutely amazed it was allowed. Ref was poor all game. How Havertz didn’t get a red I’ll never know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 10 hours ago, Davkaus said: Don't know why I bothered You would be moaning if that was given against us. So your answer if it cant confirm whether its in or out is to give goal anyway? Should not have been given and thats last thing ill say about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zen Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Demitri_C said: You would be moaning if that was given against us. So your answer if it cant confirm whether its in or out is to give goal anyway? Should not have been given and thats last thing ill say about it Reminds me of a manager (Henning Berg of Blackburn and Man Utd fame) in Norway way back when who was livid the ref didn’t give his side a pen for what he thought was a blatant handball in the area. Upon being presented with video of the incident in his post-game interview, showing that there had clearly never been any handball, he stuck to his guns replying «yeah, but there’s no way the ref could have seen that it wasn’t handball». 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 I still look at that Newcastle squad and scratch my head at how they have become consistently so good. I thought it was a honeymoon period but it’s getting on for 2 years now. Something doesn’t add up in my mind. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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