useless Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Well that's not true, we've seen nothing to suggest that Bailey isn't very good at team play or that he's not a team player, he gets his head down and runs at the oppostion at speed, but that's not the only thing he does, also unlike Adama and St Maxin he also lifts his head up and has a final ball. I can only imagine you don't realize the extent to which Adama and St Maximin aren't team players if you're trying to suggest Bailey is the same, he's not, those two are on another level when it comes to trying to do everything by themselves, it's what they're renowned for by Wolves and Newcastle fans, two of the biggest complaints you will see about them is their lack of final product, and lack of a footballing brain, something that can't be said for Bailey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, useless said: Well that's not true, we've seen nothing to suggest that Bailey isn't very good at team play or that he's not a team player, he gets his head down and runs at the oppostion at speed, but that's not the only thing he does, also unlike Adama and St Maxin he also lifts his head up and has a final ball. I can only imagine you don't realize the extent to which Adama and St Maximin aren't team players if you're trying to suggest Bailey is the same, he's not, those two are on another level when it comes to trying to do everything by themselves, it's what they're renowned for by Wolves and Newcastle fans, two of the biggest complaints you will see about them is their lack of final product, and lack of a footballing brain, something that can't be said for Bailey. Go to the Bailey thread, from when he was last playing. He was being criticized for not passing/being too selfish/taking 1 too many dribbles etc. I'm not saying Bailey is similar to them at all, but given the very loose criteria you've given for why ASM and Traore are similar...he might as well be (again, he's not...and neither are they). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 I haven't given loose criteria as to why ASM and Traore are similar, it's pretty specific or about as specific as you can be when describing a players positives and negatives, and that criteria doesn't describe every winger. Not sure why other wingers are being brought into it anyway, the point is that Adama and St Maximin are similar players, and it's not a lazy comparison just because they're both fast players who also happen to be black, there's enough similarites that it's perfectly understandable that people would compare the two. I'd say the main differences are that St Maximin has slightly more skilful and Adama has more pace, but St Maximin is also very fast and Adama is skilful as well, St Maximin has much better goals and assist stats this season, but historically I don't think it's much different to Adama, maybe slightly better, also Newcastle fans accuse St Maximin of being a selfish player, I don't think that's necessarily the case with Adama, it's just his final ball isn't very good, like you don't see him always trying to take on shots, he usually tries to find a team mate. I can undertand the criticisms of Adama, a few seasons back I think he became overrated, now I think it's kind of gone in the opposite direction, and I think he's possibly become a little underrated, yes you see him waste a lot of final balls and his assist and goals aren't great, but in many of the Wolves games I've seen this season a lot of their good attacking play as come through him,for a team that can afford to have someone like him on the bench he'd be a useful option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 They're apparently signing Diego Carlos, or at least it's being reported that he's handed in a transfer request so he can sign for them. Would be leaving a team currently 2nd in La Liga, to go to a team facing an uphill battle to survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, useless said: They're apparently signing Diego Carlos, or at least it's being reported that he's handed in a transfer request so he can sign for them. Would be leaving a team currently 2nd in La Liga, to go to a team facing an uphill battle to survive. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Real Madrid accept a £40m bid from Newcastle for Eden Hazard. He rejected the chance to talk to them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, jacketspuds said: Real Madrid accept a £40m bid from Newcastle for Eden Hazard. He rejected the chance to talk to them. A wise man he is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Looks like Saint-Maximin has much better output in the final third, that Adama creates (slightly) more chances but that Saint-Maximin is on the end of far more chances and possibly creates better ones himself. Long passes attempted is basically the same and not very many at that. Adama - no surprise - is the better dribbler and wins more fouls. However Saint-Maximin does more defensive work. FWIW I'd rather have Saint-Maximin in the side, but regardless I think they're both significantly better than Bertrand Traore anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Successful Dribbles - Premier League 20/21: Successful Dribbles - Premier League 21/22: The numbers speak for themselves. Both CLEARLY the most unique dribblers in the league, by a margin. It's fine to have an alternate opinion but to then brand anything disagreeing as "lazy" and "it's only because they are both black" is absolute Twitter-level shite. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Looks like they will drop £30m on Diego Carlos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moustache of Teale Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 12 minutes ago, The_Steve said: Looks like they will drop £30m on Diego Carlos Don’t know anything about this Carlos but from what I’ve read over the last few days he sounds like a Brazilian Lascelles. Fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 40 minutes ago, The Moustache of Teale said: Don’t know anything about this Carlos but from what I’ve read over the last few days he sounds like a Brazilian Lascelles. Fingers crossed. He isnt elite but he is miles better than anything they currently have at centre back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Conflicting reports on Carlos, English media seems to think it's a lot more done than the Spanish media. £30m also well short of his release clause (€80m) and what they'll reportedly accept: Quote They only sell for €60-70m and if they get a replacement. https://sevilla.abc.es/orgullodenervion/fichajes-sevilla-fc/sevi-diego-carlos-newcastle-aprieta-sevilla-202201181929_noticia.html He also flew with the squad yesterday to Valencia. Madness if it is true that he is desperate to leave, they are 2nd in the league and still in the title race with him a main-stay in starting 11 - To go to 2nd from bottom **** Newcastle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 28 minutes ago, penguin said: Conflicting reports on Carlos, English media seems to think it's a lot more done than the Spanish media. £30m also well short of his release clause (€80m) and what they'll reportedly accept: He also flew with the squad yesterday to Valencia. Madness if it is true that he is desperate to leave, they are 2nd in the league and still in the title race with him a main-stay in starting 11 - To go to 2nd from bottom **** Newcastle As I said earlier he is nearly 29 with a pretty average career so far. He is not getting this contract again. He is probably on about 40000 a week at Sevilla and Newcastle can probably offer him about 150000 a week Its a huge jump 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 on the subject of sevilla CBs... hows kounde been this year? touted for a big move previously but i've seen nothing of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Man A describes something he thinks is true Man B says it's only because their black (keeping in mind many other black players haven't been compared to the original black player) Man A says that's not true and explains why Man B still thinks the comparison was made because of skin colour Man A thinks Man B is a bell end Man B thinks Man A is a racist The lines are drawn and the circle goes on and on and on and on and on and on and on until one Man dies. Surviving Man therefore wins. Best of luck to both Men. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 13 minutes ago, lapal_fan said: Man A describes something he thinks is true Man B says it's only because their black (keeping in mind many other black players haven't been compared to the original black player) Man A says that's not true and explains why Man B still thinks the comparison was made because of skin colour Man A thinks Man B is a bell end Man B thinks Man A is a racist The lines are drawn and the circle goes on and on and on and on and on and on and on until one Man dies. Surviving Man therefore wins. Best of luck to both Men. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 4 hours ago, Zatman said: He isnt elite but he is miles better than anything they currently have at centre back Bizarre that anyone would leave Sevilla mid season for Newcastle, must be quadrupling his wages. Sevilla actually have a good chance of winning La Liga. Guess players like him and Trippier are just looking at it that another prem club will pick them up if Newcastle go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Mario Ballotelli now linked to Jawdee Land 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Davkaus Posted January 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2022 12 minutes ago, rjw63 said: Mario Ballotelli now linked to Jawdee Land Do they need another player so similar to ASM? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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