Dr_Pangloss Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 When you say you want to be at a Champions League side you have to show and prove, and he simply hasn't been doing that. However he's still 10 times better than Richards and Lescott combined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 This is one decision that I'm starting to majorly question Garde over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 (edited) 19 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: This is one decision that I'm starting to majorly question Garde over. I'm wondering if something happened behind the scenes with his comments to the press, or if he's being taken out of the firing line as Garde would actually quite like to keep him. Okore probably hasn't had enough continuous playing time to fully acclimatise himself to the on field Atmosphere of Apathy TM. edit: or if he's got a slight injury so we have to play both Richards and Clark to compensate, and since he's the only other CB we have he has make the bench. Edited March 7, 2016 by a m ole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 (edited) i don't understand how players like Okore and Gil get dropped when you can't really accuse them of being awful or lack of effort, even if neither is necessarily that good. we have gone from awful to utterly diabolical since they've been dropped. If Garde took exception to Okore's dumb comments then surely the antics of Lescott should have meritted him being dropped, with car tweets and gum gate. Edited March 7, 2016 by VillanousOne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 20 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: This is one decision that I'm starting to majorly question Garde over. One of many for me, but certainly stands out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 You could argue that Richards had some kind of negative involvement in all four City goals. I got criticised by a few on here for questioning him playing at CB and has Captain, earlier in the season. He's just not good enough and seems like he can't be bothered. He should be stripped of the Captaincy immediately and be deployed back at right back or out of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Quite simply our best defender and fitness permitting, has to start every game. However, he does appear to be getting worse on the ball, but that could be the crap around him not helping? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 I thought he was shite today. Bad positioning on several occasions. If he thinks he can get a Champions League club he's dreaming, unless he's thinking of a move to Celtic! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Knee injuries have finished him. Moves like an old man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 presumably today's performance has put paid to the myth he's the best defender at the club ? yeah yeah I know today is but one game but nothing highlighted his lack of reading a game and his positioning ( that I've always criticised him for ) than today another one in the get rid off list for the end of the season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Okore apparently says he would stay next season if he were to play regularly. Not the most reliable source (gigantic understatement alert) but he's quoted from a report in a Danish paper. For what it's worth, I'd keep him. If he can stay injury free and play in a settled team, could become a very useful player for us next season. http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/03/22/jores-okore-says-he-will-happily-stay-with-aston-villa-in-champi/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Hell yes. Having Okore in the championship is really good if we hope to get promoted. He has already proven he can cut it in premier league, so he will hopefully boss the championship. Plus baker has been doing well and Clark surely is good enough. Maybe we can promote Donacian or get another center back and we'd be set in that spot at least. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 4 minutes ago, It's Your Round said: Okore apparently says he would stay next season if he were to play regularly. Not the most reliable source (gigantic understatement alert) but he's quoted from a report in a Danish paper. For what it's worth, I'd keep him. If he can stay injury free and play in a settled team, could become a very useful player for us next season. http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/03/22/jores-okore-says-he-will-happily-stay-with-aston-villa-in-champi/ So a player who thinks he is better than he is wants a guarantee of first team football. Who does he think he is - Gabby Agbonlahor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Just now, AntrimBlack said: So a player who thinks he is better than he is wants a guarantee of first team football. Who does he think he is - Gabby Agbonlahor? I agree, Lerner Out!! In all seriousness though, Gabby knows he's a shit footballer. It's those above him that are confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBM Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 if the club can ship out richards and lescott in the summer, then thats a sign okore will stay (if they club dont be morons and sell him) okore might not be up there with mellberg, laursen, staunton or southgate but hes good enough for the championship 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benireduk Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 The only concern I have with Okore is if he could hack 3 games in a week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 8 minutes ago, AntrimBlack said: So a player who thinks he is better than he is wants a guarantee of first team football. There's no direct quotes from Okore about wanting guaranteed first team football in the Danish original article. In short, he says that he wants to play football and hopes he may play more next season than he has this season. And if he is allowed to do that - and the club wants him to stay - he'd like to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn1982 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 I watched Okore warm up on Saturday and he just went through the motions. I know he was a sub but surely you'd try and be as professional as possible to get across to the coaches you want to play? His attitude stunk and he's a player I like and have big hopes for but he seems to be doing a lot of media at the moment that doesn't shine him I a good light. Up until the LFC game he'd looked solid then he spouts off to the press and had his worst game for us surely that'd register so you'd get your head down and work hard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 48 minutes ago, TB said: There's no direct quotes from Okore about wanting guaranteed first team football in the Danish original article. In short, he says that he wants to play football and hopes he may play more next season than he has this season. And if he is allowed to do that - and the club wants him to stay - he'd like to stay. What he has said, and you have quoted, means exactly that. There is also the implied threat that if he does not get it he will move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, AntrimBlack said: What he has said, and you have quoted, means exactly that. There is also the implied threat that if he does not get it he will move on. It seems that I'm not as good at translating as I thought. That's not the impression I get from the Danish article. But I confess that I've been translating from one non-native language to another, and might have missed out on some crucial nuances. I do find it funny, though, that some players are criticized for being happy just to sit on the bench and collect their wages, whereas others are given grief for wanting to play, thus considering a possible move in order to get more time on the pitch, if the next manager at his current club doesn't rate him. And it's perfectly clear that he doesn't even know whether the club actually will want him to stay or not. Hardly a threat, implied or otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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