TRO Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 .....jury's out for me. I can't see anything that stirs me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poitier Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 If Westwood can finally get a goal from a long range shot, it can only fuel the belief that Tonev will soon be cracking them in from all angles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted November 28, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted November 28, 2013 His shooting is getting better and, lets face it, we know he can hit them so it will come as he settles into the league. I've seen some decent crosses and passes too in his more recent performances. Like the team, the trend is towards continual improvement. Only his touch concerns me - it's overly heavy and he turned over a lot of ball in that first half vs WBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 .....jury's out for me. I can't see anything that stirs me. What about when you're sitting in the stands and one of his shots comes flying at your head? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 If we can get N'Zogbia back then I'd much prefer him in the team than Tonev but hopefully that won't eventually be the case? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers13 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 He has a lot to build on is the thing that makes me optimistic. His decision making and shooting has been dreadful, obviously, but when he takes on a player one on one, he can easily craft out space to take the shot on either side. He has such quick feet, and if he eventually begins to make the right decisions, he should be able to get to the goal line quite easily because of the quickness. I think if he can get his decisions right he's going to be almost unstoppable on the wing because the full back literally won't be able to even lean to one side due to his twofootedness, it'll be a complete surprise. However, this is all contingent on Tonev actually striking a few shots well (Atomic goal, right?) and much improving his decisions, two things we haven't seen but are certainly possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 I actually see a promising player within Tonev and won't write him off just yet. I got the impression we wanted to sign him alongside Popov to help him/them settle in better - hopefully the Popov deal (if rumours are to be believed) will go through in January and they can help each other on and off the pitch. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Thing is, his shooting isn't even that good. Someone like Frank Lampard is good at shooting because he hits the target every time and forces the keeper into a save. Half of Tonev's shots are total mishits, and 70% of the time there's a better ball on. Quite literally a very hit and miss player, as a wildcard from the bench he's alright but shouldn't be starting - not until he can learn to make some better decisions. Seriously how can you compare a young player new to the league, who is obviously trying too hard to score a wonder goal, to a seasoned pro like lampard?? crazy stuff. You just need to look at the keepers face when he saved Tonevs shot in the first half, he has got immense power in them. Anyone who plays will know when you line up a screamer, there's that split second you think about too much and hit a duff shot. He has bags of energy and pace, can cross a ball and shoot with either foot. Will only get better for me. I've seen enough. Needs to settle into the league, and just mature a little with his decision making. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 The problem with his shooting is that it either goes really strong up in the goal .. or mostly out of the net .. unlike lets say Benteke or even Gabby .. they arent great shooters but tgey try to target the goal more than its strength .. they keep it simple .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myko Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 I have a Football Manager career with Villa, and Culverhouse just made a suggestion to me to put Tonev on special individual training to "not hit the ball with as much power when shooting"... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillakevBromsgrove Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 PL seems to like him and so does Andy W, they see what he is capable of in training so hopefully he can put this into practice on a match day sooner rather than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 He has some attributes, tricky, two footed, pretty fast. Certainly one we need to withhold judgement on, as he could be a useful player if the coaches can iron out some of his deficiencies. However, at the moment, I think he should only be starting as a sub until his all round game improves, if, indeed, it ever does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 (edited) I'd upset everyone by giving him another chance today. Right up front, more or less alongside Kozak. Kozak's movement isn't all that and Tonev can drop off, go both ways, and just cause a bit of trouble. I'm convinced he'll make it because aside from often trying to hit everything too hard (crosses as well as shots), he's technically quite good. First touch is tidy, and he can play off either foot. Weimann's failure to control simple passes has annoyed me a lot more than Tonev's shots this season. Those ridiculous shots will make sure we don't dare go above 40% possession as well. Edited December 21, 2013 by Tomaszk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 He's best left at home. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PaulC Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 (edited) Really hope he comes good today. Fancy a spectacular strike going in! Edited December 21, 2013 by PaulC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Im out on my own with this one as all my mates think he is poor. I think he has something that you cant train and he is going to be quality. Just remember Zidane wasnt extremely fast and didnt come good to around 24-25. Not that he will be that good but just making a point. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Im out on my own with this one as all my mates think he is poor. I think he has something that you cant train and he is going to be quality. You wouldn't want to bloody train what he has shown on the pitch so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 The only time I've been impressed with him is when he played wide left and took his fullback on getting to the byline and crossing. Same again today please. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted December 21, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted December 21, 2013 A lower league player in some continental European league, that's what I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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