maqroll Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 (edited) Geography fail on my part. Edited May 24, 2013 by The_Rev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted May 24, 2013 Author Share Posted May 24, 2013 It might be a long summer in Europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted May 24, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted May 24, 2013 Spreading to different parts of the country as well. Copycats hard at work. clearings in the woods! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 It's sad how Europe swings to the right when everybody is broke. I don't think we are quite at the levels we saw in the 1930s, but it is still thoroughly depressing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 (edited) Spreading to different parts of the country as well. Copycats hard at work. clearings in the woods! Will it spread to different parts of Europe? Wouldn't be surprised. I have a feeling the UK will see a number of "clashes" this summer. Probably race related too. Edited May 24, 2013 by Tamuff_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legov Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 (edited) It's sad how Europe swings to the right when everybody is broke. I don't think we are quite at the levels we saw in the 1930s, but it is still thoroughly depressing. Pisses me off. That said, this strikes me as something that's symptomatic of something that's been around for much longer than the recent austerity drives in Europe, as opposed to a direct reaction to economic cuts. The perpetrators here were minorities, had it been primarily a protest against austerity economics it would have involved large numbers of people from the religious majority. Disclaimer, I know very very little about European economics, least of all Scandinavia, so forgive me if I make any poor assumptions. Edited May 24, 2013 by legov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 the one in Stockholm is just horrific as Sweden is seen as the perfect model for integration but its even stranger has been very little coverage over here about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Just as I plan a bloody trip there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drat01 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Hmmmm "The insurgents are mostly muslim communist-scialists" Now correct me if I am wrong here but surely that cannot work. Communists do not believe in religion - "opium of the people" etc? And, again apologies if I am wrong, but Islam surely has no time for communism or socialism. There seems to be a lot of mis-information being spread now by the far right etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Just as I plan a bloody trip there. they arent really in city centre if makes you feel more comfortable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Their religion doesn't have anything to do with these riots. It's poor people who feel alienated from government institutions like the police taking out their frustrations at being poor and feeling left out of society. It seems similar to the London riots and the Paris riots from a few years back 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Their religion doesn't have anything to do with these riots. It's poor people who feel alienated from government institutions like the police taking out their frustrations at being poor and feeling left out of society. It seems similar to the London riots and the Paris riots from a few years back its very similar to how the London riots started Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted May 24, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted May 24, 2013 Hmmmm "The insurgents are mostly muslim communist-scialists" Now correct me if I am wrong here but surely that cannot work. Communists do not believe in religion - "opium of the people" etc? And, again apologies if I am wrong, but Islam surely has no time for communism or socialism. There seems to be a lot of mis-information being spread now by the far right etc They're probably atheist homosexual Muslim communists. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Yes, reading about it, it's almost identical to the narative from the London riots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legov Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Hmmmm "The insurgents are mostly muslim communist-scialists" Now correct me if I am wrong here but surely that cannot work. Communists do not believe in religion - "opium of the people" etc? And, again apologies if I am wrong, but Islam surely has no time for communism or socialism. There seems to be a lot of mis-information being spread now by the far right etc They're probably atheist homosexual Muslim communists. Post of the year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legov Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Their religion doesn't have anything to do with these riots. It's poor people who feel alienated from government institutions like the police taking out their frustrations at being poor and feeling left out of society. It seems similar to the London riots and the Paris riots from a few years back You know, over here (where there's a lot of socioeconomic inequality, by developed country standards) the Scandinavian countries are often held up as models for governance, especially by people who are dissatisfied with the incumbent government here. While I'm sure a fair bit of it is justified, it is interesting to see that Scandinavia is also, in some respects, not the socialist utopia a lot of Singaporeans (seem to) think it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Their religion doesn't have anything to do with these riots. It's poor people who feel alienated from government institutions like the police taking out their frustrations at being poor and feeling left out of society. It seems similar to the London riots and the Paris riots from a few years back The title of the video is ridiculous. Why is it that when Muslims do something, their religion suddenly becomes extremely relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 (edited) Their religion doesn't have anything to do with these riots. It's poor people who feel alienated from government institutions like the police taking out their frustrations at being poor and feeling left out of society. It seems similar to the London riots and the Paris riots from a few years back You know, over here (where there's a lot of socioeconomic inequality, by developed country standards) the Scandinavian countries are often held up as models for governance, especially by people who are dissatisfied with the incumbent government here. While I'm sure a fair bit of it is justified, it is interesting to see that Scandinavia is also, in some respects, not the socialist utopia a lot of Singaporeans (seem to) think it is. No where is a utopia. Anyone who tries to tell you otherwise is trying to manipulate you. Sweden has a very large middle class and the population have a culture of believing the government works for the people (The British seem to think that is a quaint idea ). That attitude helps when you have to pay 50-60% of your income back in various taxes, at least everyone is getting something out of it. At the same time there are a lot of young Swedes who move to the US or UK to break out of that 'happy middle' culture and make their fortune. At the other end of the spectrum, new migrants still find it tough to break into that happy middle. People with poor language skills or even just having a foreign sounding surname can find it tough to get a job. Other Swedes can resent having to pay for people who are not paying into the tax system themselves frustrations can build on both sides. Edited May 24, 2013 by LondonLax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meath_Villan Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Lets hope germany doesnt lead us out of this european recession .....didnt work out so well in the 1940s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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