peterms Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 would that make him a xenophobe? Not if it's specific to people from the USA - a xenophobe dislikes foreigners in general. I don't think there's a word for it. "Anti-American" tends to mean disapproving of US actions (which he may well be, but the description goes beyond this, referring to him hating all Americans). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Just wondering if this is getting any coverage in America? I know the Boston bombings were on a much larger scale but at the end of the day it was a ''terrorist'' attack carried out by two people who planted a bomb this one at the end of the day was a ''terrorist'' attack carried out by two people who ran over and beheaded a man and then wanted to pose for pictures with the public whilst covered in blood Reddit is always a good barometer for this kind of thing. It melted down after Boston and caused quite a few stories itself by how it reacted. At the moment the story is almost buried at the bottom of the front page. Things may have swung wildly in the last 7 minutes, but the current top submission is a video about the murder. Obviously Boston had more traffic, it was an event in America, and far more people were killed and injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Any chance rioting could kick off tonight there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 There's a bloke at the airport who works on security and is of the same extraction of the perpetrators of this crime. He has been heard to declare his absolute hatred of Americans, all Americans, black, white or Hispanic. I am not sure what that makes him. An idiot? A racist, or a terrorist? He could be the former. I assume that he isn't the latter. He's not either. He is a 'bigot' if you need a label for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Just wondering if this is getting any coverage in America? I know the Boston bombings were on a much larger scale but at the end of the day it was a ''terrorist'' attack carried out by two people who planted a bomb this one at the end of the day was a ''terrorist'' attack carried out by two people who ran over and beheaded a man and then wanted to pose for pictures with the public whilst covered in blood Reddit is always a good barometer for this kind of thing. It melted down after Boston and caused quite a few stories itself by how it reacted. At the moment the story is almost buried at the bottom of the front page. Things may have swung wildly in the last 7 minutes, but the current top submission is a video about the murder. Obviously Boston had more traffic, it was an event in America, and far more people were killed and injured. That's what I am saying it was on a much larger scale but this one was probably a hell of a lot more barbaric, I mean to behead someone with a **** meat cleaver in the middle of the day is beyond words and the way he was justifying his actions to the camera afterwards was frightening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted May 22, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted May 22, 2013 (edited) Any chance rioting could kick off tonight there? Every chance. I would imagine police leave has been cancelled. Edited May 22, 2013 by mjmooney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Just wondering if this is getting any coverage in America? I know the Boston bombings were on a much larger scale but at the end of the day it was a ''terrorist'' attack carried out by two people who planted a bomb this one at the end of the day was a ''terrorist'' attack carried out by two people who ran over and beheaded a man and then wanted to pose for pictures with the public whilst covered in blood Reddit is always a good barometer for this kind of thing. It melted down after Boston and caused quite a few stories itself by how it reacted. At the moment the story is almost buried at the bottom of the front page. Things may have swung wildly in the last 7 minutes, but the current top submission is a video about the murder. Obviously Boston had more traffic, it was an event in America, and far more people were killed and injured. That's what I am saying it was on a much larger scale but this one was probably a hell of a lot more barbaric, I mean to behead someone with a **** meat cleaver in the middle of the day is beyond words and the way he was justifying his actions to the camera afterwards was frightening You would have to have serious mental issues to do something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Lock 'em up and move on. No media circus, no hysteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 EDL is at Woolwich as we speak. This will not end well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 EDL is at Woolwich as we speak. This will not end well. If only we had more terrorists, we could let them all fight to the death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 It's sad that in the immediate aftermath people are using the heinous murder of a man to strengthen their political aims. We don't need to care what this man wanted to bring to the attention of the world by murdering someone. He's simply a murderer. Using the act, to rally against whatever he wanted to make a point about, is quite distasteful in my view. A man has been brutally murdered. Don't take that as an opportunity to start wheeling out your left wing or right wing bandwagon. Let justice take it's course with this murderer, deny him the oxygen of publicity for anything he wanted to broadcast, and let his actions quietly be left to pass from memory. I'd have said some people are trying to understand the cause of it. Yes some, specifically the EDL and the BNP, are using it to fuel hatred. The video linked earlier gives the cause of the murder as being the deaths which are taking place in whatever country he is referring to, makes a connection with our government (presumably meaning that the commit, support or sanction the deaths he means), and includes the phrase "you people will never be safe". Responding to this by having the state conceal either the threat or the reasoning behind it would not be a sensible course of action, and isn't a way of resolving the issue - as the coiner of the phrase "the oxygen of publicity" came to learn, before changing her approach. Any chance rioting could kick off tonight there? Every chance. I would imagine police has been cancelled. I know they're facing cuts, but it's not quite that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 (edited) Brooks Newmark MP @TweetBrooks 16m Local mosque in Braintree attacked by man with knives + incendiary device. Man arrested. No one injured. Many thx 2 police 4 swift response. Edited May 22, 2013 by Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Surprised that gory pictures have not been circulating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Trees, you have a duty of care to report that bloke at BHX who works in security. If he's saying those things it needs monitoring / investigating. We all remember PanAm and what happened in Frankfurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffy Biro Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Brooks Newmark MP @TweetBrooks 16m Local mosque in Braintree attacked by man with knives + incendiary device. Man arrested. No one injured. Many thx 2 police 4 swift response. You cannot be serious, i despair, i really do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swerbs Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 EDL turning up to defend England by throwing missiles at the English police... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted May 22, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted May 22, 2013 It's sad that in the immediate aftermath people are using the heinous murder of a man to strengthen their political aims. We don't need to care what this man wanted to bring to the attention of the world by murdering someone. He's simply a murderer. Using the act, to rally against whatever he wanted to make a point about, is quite distasteful in my view. A man has been brutally murdered. Don't take that as an opportunity to start wheeling out your left wing or right wing bandwagon. Let justice take it's course with this murderer, deny him the oxygen of publicity for anything he wanted to broadcast, and let his actions quietly be left to pass from memory. I'd have said some people are trying to understand the cause of it. Yes some, specifically the EDL and the BNP, are using it to fuel hatred. The video linked earlier gives the cause of the murder as being the deaths which are taking place in whatever country he is referring to, makes a connection with our government (presumably meaning that the commit, support or sanction the deaths he means), and includes the phrase "you people will never be safe". Responding to this by having the state conceal either the threat or the reasoning behind it would not be a sensible course of action, and isn't a way of resolving the issue - as the coiner of the phrase "the oxygen of publicity" came to learn, before changing her approach. You appear to have missed at least some of my point. It's not just the stirring up of hatred by idiots in the EDL or BNP I find distasteful, it includes the peddling of left wing agendas on the back of this mans murder. That is also utilising a heinous crime to further a goal, whether I might agree with that goal or not, and it's rather sickening. I watched the video and understood it - you don't need to recount it for me. You are jumping to a conclusion I did not make in inferring I request the state conceal the matter. My point is rather more that the media do not, and should not, broadcast anything about this beyond that the event took place and is being investigated. It only serves to give the murderer exactly what he wanted (a similar line of thought is given for high school shootings in the US). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drat01 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Jessica Harris @jessicaaharrisx 2h The spread of radical Muslims is getting out of hand. No way would it be acceptable to go to Islam and burn the flag. No we'd be killed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Jessica Harris @jessicaaharrisx 2h The spread of radical Muslims is getting out of hand. No way would it be acceptable to go to Islam and burn the flag. No we'd be killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 People with smartphones and Twitter accounts were giving accounts well before any media turned up...no stopping the free flow of info now...until they lockdown the internet, which will eventually happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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