troon_villan Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Hmm. So is this is a back up plan do we think? Or an extra bod, just in case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Hairy hands was spot on again What did he say? No serious money for a transfer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 A loan deal for this guy would be disappointing for two reasons. 1) clearly shows Lambert's not being fully backed by Lerner. 2) it seems pointless as surely it's in our interest to get Helenius up to speed with minutes on the pitch instead of a player we don't own. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdomlahor Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 I imagine he'll be a different option to Benteke if he gets injured. He lacks technical ability but he's a physical presence and could cause problems for defenders at the very least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted September 1, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted September 1, 2013 A loan deal for this guy would be disappointing for two reasons. 1) clearly shows Lambert's not being fully backed by Lerner. 2) it seems pointless as surely it's in our interest to get Helenius up to speed with minutes on the pitch instead of a player we don't own. Yup. The amount Lambert has had to spend is very disappointing. How much have we spent? 10millionish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 A loan deal for this guy would be disappointing for two reasons. 1) clearly shows Lambert's not being fully backed by Lerner. 2) it seems pointless as surely it's in our interest to get Helenius up to speed with minutes on the pitch instead of a player we don't own. This guy could be a back up Benteke. Helenus is built like Peter Crouch and couldn't do that role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Kozak?! Seems very strange to me.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomaspg Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 think we might have to get used to not spending more. atleast not for a couple of years, this seem to be our new tactics and im sure lerner will stick too it to see if its feasible in the long run. constantly changing ethos is something that definetly doesnt work. loan deal would be pointless, rather see em saving the money for next year and using helenius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 A loan deal for this guy would be disappointing for two reasons. 1) clearly shows Lambert's not being fully backed by Lerner. 2) it seems pointless as surely it's in our interest to get Helenius up to speed with minutes on the pitch instead of a player we don't own. This guy could be a back up Benteke. Helenus is built like Peter Crouch and couldn't do that role. Then what was he bought for? Surely he's our back up forward as well as being able to play with Benteke. Signing this guy on loan would almost certainly effect his minutes on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted September 1, 2013 Author Share Posted September 1, 2013 A loan deal for this guy would be disappointing for two reasons. 1) clearly shows Lambert's not being fully backed by Lerner. 2) it seems pointless as surely it's in our interest to get Helenius up to speed with minutes on the pitch instead of a player we don't own. This guy could be a back up Benteke. Helenus is built like Peter Crouch and couldn't do that role. Then what was he bought for? Surely he's our back up forward as well as being able to play with Benteke. Signing this guy on loan would almost certainly effect his minutes on the pitch. People assume Helenius will be a back-up for Benteke because of his height, but he isn't strong like Benteke and he would fail at playing alone in the same role. If anything we'll play Helenius alongside Benteke, potentially just behind him I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchard Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 I hope he reaches the heights that Dawkins managed last year. Shall wait until this time tomorrow but this window demonstrates once more that Lerner needs to sell up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 We could spend £100 million and not be guaranteed Europa League football next season. If we spend in a sustainable way, on young and hungry players that are offered at great value, we have a method that will work our way up the league. Once we get to very near the Europa League spot with this method, then will be the time to go for that extra push. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Latest twitter bollocks is Kozak from Lazio as reported by "Benteke is on ebay" Sky Italia. Take with a salt mine but there you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 A loan deal for this guy would be disappointing for two reasons. 1) clearly shows Lambert's not being fully backed by Lerner. 2) it seems pointless as surely it's in our interest to get Helenius up to speed with minutes on the pitch instead of a player we don't own. This guy could be a back up Benteke. Helenus is built like Peter Crouch and couldn't do that role. Then what was he bought for? Surely he's our back up forward as well as being able to play with Benteke. Signing this guy on loan would almost certainly effect his minutes on the pitch. Nope. In Helanius' first interview he said that Lambert had told him he would play in the 3 positions behind Benteke, not up front leading the line on his own. We don't have a back up striker who can lead the line. Gabby would be the closest we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 A loan deal for this guy would be disappointing for two reasons. 1) clearly shows Lambert's not being fully backed by Lerner. 2) it seems pointless as surely it's in our interest to get Helenius up to speed with minutes on the pitch instead of a player we don't own. This guy could be a back up Benteke. Helenus is built like Peter Crouch and couldn't do that role. Then what was he bought for? Surely he's our back up forward as well as being able to play with Benteke. Signing this guy on loan would almost certainly effect his minutes on the pitch. People assume Helenius will be a back-up for Benteke because of his height, but he isn't strong like Benteke and he would fail at playing alone in the same role. If anything we'll play Helenius alongside Benteke, potentially just behind him I think. I don't assume he's back up because of his height. I assumed his back up because he's a striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted September 1, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted September 1, 2013 (edited) I don't mind this loan signing if it means we can go get another player. We're desperate for creativity. Edited September 1, 2013 by PieFacE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted September 1, 2013 Author Share Posted September 1, 2013 A loan deal for this guy would be disappointing for two reasons. 1) clearly shows Lambert's not being fully backed by Lerner. 2) it seems pointless as surely it's in our interest to get Helenius up to speed with minutes on the pitch instead of a player we don't own. This guy could be a back up Benteke. Helenus is built like Peter Crouch and couldn't do that role. Then what was he bought for? Surely he's our back up forward as well as being able to play with Benteke. Signing this guy on loan would almost certainly effect his minutes on the pitch. People assume Helenius will be a back-up for Benteke because of his height, but he isn't strong like Benteke and he would fail at playing alone in the same role. If anything we'll play Helenius alongside Benteke, potentially just behind him I think. I don't assume he's back up because of his height. I assumed his back up because he's a striker. We play with 3 strikers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 I actually wouldn't mind it if its a permanent deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 We could spend £100 million and not be guaranteed Europa League football next season. If we spend in a sustainable way, on young and hungry players that are offered at great value, we have a method that will work our way up the league. Once we get to very near the Europa League spot with this method, then will be the time to go for that extra push. Exactly, people are so impatient it's untrue. They've done everything right this summer other than find someone for Given and Ireland to go to. This is going to take at least two more windows to completely fix us. I have no idea what the have in mind for this guy but I would give them the benefit of the doubt right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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