Demitri_C Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 so 10 months for 5 years, that is absolutely ridiculous. Very soft sentence in my eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Its not even 10 months its just over 8 is the minimum he has to serve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 (edited) He has to serve 1/6 off his sentence in prison and if he meets certain conditions he can serve the rest of his sentence under house arrest, excluding what he gets for parole. The prosecution will almost certainly appeal the lightness of the sentence. The defence won't appeal for obvious reasons, I thought the judge was very thorough in the reasons behind the length of the sentence but can't help feeling that too much consideration was given to the vunerability of Pistorius and not enough consideration for the victim or her family. How vunerable is he. We are talking about a man who had the strength of will to come back from adversity and comepete against able bodied men in the Olympics. This is the one thing that annoyed me with it all, it is fine to demand equal treatment when it benefits you but when it goes the other way it is fine to play on your disability to get favorable treatment. I know that I am over simplifying things and that may not have been the case but that is the way it has come across at times. Edited October 21, 2014 by leemond2008 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saturdaygig Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 But bear in mind we know what the media reported, not the four months of evidence heard by the court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 If that was directed at my comments his defence argued quite a lot about the reasons that he shouldn't do actual time because of his disability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted October 21, 2014 Moderator Share Posted October 21, 2014 But bear in mind we know what the media reported, not the four months of evidence heard by the court. The whole trial was televised wasn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 But bear in mind we know what the media reported, not the four months of evidence heard by the court. The whole trial was televised wasn't it? Indeed. However, how many here sat and watched the whole thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 (edited) I've watched a fair bit of it, more than I would have thought I would have before getting bored of it anyway Edited October 21, 2014 by leemond2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 me too, the whole trial wasn't televised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) Quote Olympic athlete Oscar Pistorius has been found guilty of murder after a South African appeals court overturned an earlier manslaughter verdict. He killed his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp in February 2013 after shooting her four times through a locked toilet door. He is currently under house arrest after spending one year of his original five-year sentence in jail. Pistorius will have to return to court to be re-sentenced, for murder. Pistorius murder conviction: Live updates It was earlier incorrectly reported that the court had ruled the manslaughter verdict would remain. Image copyrightImage captionSouth Africa's Supreme Court of Appeal ruled that the lower court did not correctly apply the rule of dolus eventualis - whether Pistorius knew that a death would be a likely result of his actions. Reading the ruling reached by a panel of five judges, Justice Lorimer Leach said that having armed himself with a high-calibre weapon, Pistorius must have foreseen that whoever was behind the door might die. Pistorius' lawyer argued that he believed that there was an intruder in the house but the judge said that the identity of the person behind the door was irrelevant. istorius competed in both the Olympics and Paralympics in London in 2012 Ms Steenkamp's mother, June, was present but Pistorius did not attend the hearing at the Supreme Court of Appeal in Bloemfontein. The double amputee was released from prison on 19 October. Under South African law, he was eligible for release under "correctional supervision", having served a sixth of his sentence. Pistorius can challenge the ruling in the constitutional court but only if his lawyers can argue that his constitutional rights have been violated. Legal expert Mannie Witz told the BBC that there do not appear to be any grounds for such an appeal. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-34993002 Back to Prison again? Edited December 3, 2015 by sexbelowsound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eames Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Yes almost certainly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villarule123 Posted December 3, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted December 3, 2015 15 years minimum. Abolutely the right decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 sad day for justice , clearly not enough evidence for a murder conviction and the appeal courts have presumably been pressured into making that decision as it's a now 1-1 ,can Oscar now appeal against the appeal and make it best out of 3 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eames Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 3 minutes ago, villarule123 said: 15 years minimum. Abolutely the right decision. He won't get 15 years. That's the maximum available for his conviction, he's already served one and has profound disabilities. I'm betting 10-12 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Being bounced around from jail to house arrest can't be doing his mental health any good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 2 hours ago, sexbelowsound said: Being bounced around from jail to house arrest can't be doing his mental health any good. Who actually cares? That is little sympathy for Steenkamps family. Correct decision, getting 8 months in prison was a absolute joke. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 19 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Who actually cares? That is little sympathy for Steenkamps family. Correct decision, getting 8 months in prison was a absolute joke. I'm talking more from the perspective of him having a reason to appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 12 minutes ago, sexbelowsound said: I'm talking more from the perspective of him having a reason to appeal. From the BBC on the subject of appeal. Yes, but only if his lawyers are convinced that the appeal judges violated his constitutional rights. So it's a high threshold,and hard to meet. It looks unlikely he will get out of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 At last the Steenkamps family get some justice for their daughters murder. I don't think he will have any grounds for an appeal. He should just now accept his punishment, he will still be fairly young when he gets out of prison, where-as Reeva doesn't get a second chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 how long does everyone think he will get? I reckon 5 years (minus the time he has already done) so four years. I just wonder if Oscar is contemplating suicide, would not suprise me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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