Popular Post jackbauer24 Posted January 3, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2016 It will make zero difference. But then again I'd rather spend 30 seconds signing something that will make no difference than writing a post on here telling other peope not to bother. Especially if I agree with the sentiment. Signed. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Platt Posted January 3, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted January 3, 2016 For a protest if has not been mentioned, The Proud History Bright Future Scarfs he gave in his first season to the fans should be cut in half and The Bright Future half should be flung onto the pitch. As for selling up, if I was a buyer I would wait till we dropped to the championship to negotiate a better deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post markavfc40 Posted January 3, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2016 Gladly signed. It is better to do something than nothing at all. I will also join in with missing the first 15 minutes of the Palace game. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Even if you feel like you're achieving nothing, at least you're being heard. Also, you get to hang around with some like minded souls and have a sing and a moan for a bit, who doesn't enjoy that? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 2 minutes ago, markavfc40 said: I will also join in with missing the first 15 minutes of the Palace game. Our current "custodian" is well ahead of us on that. He will miss the full 90 minutes as he has missed our games for a long, long time now unless doing so costs him an opportunity to sit next to a future King at Wembley. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 3, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted January 3, 2016 (edited) Signed the petition. The car park protest won't happen. And if it does it'll be a dozen people and nobody will notice. Edited January 3, 2016 by Stevo985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 We'll probably start hearing noises about a new Chairman again, in the next few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Signed the petition. The car park protest won't happen. And if it does it'll be a dozen people and nobody will notice. Why won't it? It happened in 2000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMcKenna Posted January 3, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted January 3, 2016 Like many VT-ers and other Villa fans I spend a fair amount of time online, and given that signing an online petition takes about 2/3 seconds, I cannot understand why so many cannot be bothered and keep playing the apathy card. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted January 4, 2016 Moderator Share Posted January 4, 2016 2 hours ago, MikeMcKenna said: The problem is that having pissed his Dad's money up the wall he thinks he can get all back - he never will, we are damaged goods and he has to cut his price. If he was trying to get it all back he'd be looking for around £400m - from what little we've heard in terms of rumour and press, initially he wanted £200m and now he's asking for about £150m and there are absolutely no takers, no investors on the horizon, nothing coming up now, in the summer or in the foreseeable future - whether he can be motivated to lower that price rather than continuing to make losses each year is a different thing, but he's hardly trying to recover his investment, we're still making losses and he's still covering them* - he's looking for a tourniquet not a miracle cure. *and they're almost entirely his own fault. The most suitable punishment for Randy Lerner for the abysmal way he's owned Aston Villa Football Club is owning Aston Villa Football Club. I don't think we're helping. With Doug the threat of protest was that we wanted him to drop his cash cow, we wanted to take away his income, his fame and his power and because of the way it was structured, it wasn't entirely impossible, it made him nervous. For Randy Lerner, we're offering to take away what must feel to him like leprosy and yet perversely, because of the way it's structured, our voices mean absolutely nothing at all. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Howard Hodgson said that Lerner had accepted an offer of £150M plus an additional £25M in other fees. I don't see why he'd lie, it was an interview with a national broadcaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMcKenna Posted January 4, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted January 4, 2016 3 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: If he was trying to get it all back he'd be looking for around £400m - from what little we've heard in terms of rumour and press, initially he wanted £200m and now he's asking for about £150m and there are absolutely no takers, no investors on the horizon, nothing coming up now, in the summer or in the foreseeable future - whether he can be motivated to lower that price rather than continuing to make losses each year is a different thing, but he's hardly trying to recover his investment, we're still making losses and he's still covering them* - he's looking for a tourniquet not a miracle cure. *and they're almost entirely his own fault. The most suitable punishment for Randy Lerner for the abysmal way he's owned Aston Villa Football Club is owning Aston Villa Football Club. I don't think we're helping. With Doug the threat of protest was that we wanted him to drop his cash cow, we wanted to take away his income, his fame and his power and because of the way it was structured, it wasn't entirely impossible, it made him nervous. For Randy Lerner, we're offering to take away what must feel to him like leprosy and yet perversely, because of the way it's structured, our voices mean absolutely nothing at all. Scott, You are right that "get it all back" was the wrong phrase. I should have said he is trying to get a higher price than others think it is worth. Whether he is down £400 mill or if his asking price his price is £150 mill, Do we really know - if he has to drop another £25-50 mill to find a buyer so be it. For all we know there could be all kinds of riders that involve repayment of his debts overtime or other claw backs. As for your comment about "punishment" and "I don't think we are helping" - I am not interested in punishing him. What is done is done is and I would just like him gone. In my eyes saying and doing nothing isn't an option. I know protests and petitions are little more than minor publicity stunts but for some fans they are a public means of venting their anger. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted January 4, 2016 Moderator Share Posted January 4, 2016 31 minutes ago, MikeMcKenna said: Scott, You are right that "get it all back" was the wrong phrase. I should have said he is trying to get a higher price than others think it is worth. Whether he is down £400 mill or if his asking price his price is £150 mill, Do we really know - if he has to drop another £25-50 mill to find a buyer so be it. For all we know there could be all kinds of riders that involve repayment of his debts overtime or other claw backs. I don't think we have very much debt now Mike. He wrote most of it off. There was a day that went largely unnoticed a year or so back when he wrote off about £80m of debt - it's now built into the asking price I guess, into the rumoured £150m - he's frittered away the family fortune, wasted it and achieved absolutely nothing, no new stand, no trophy, no glory and a football club bereft of hope or future - nothing. That nothing, that lack of achievement, is his legacy. He will leave us with less than he found us with and it will have been down to decisions he made, but he isn't leaving us with the bill, he's footing that himself. I understand the anger, and I share it to an extent, but mine's tempered with some pity. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New_Jersey_Villa Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Okay Randy here it is. FFS stop trying to run our football club as an American sports franchise. You need to hire people that actually know about FOOTBALL and not how to make the most profit selling overpriced hot dogs. Also using the "Money ball" methodology to determine which players to sign is a shit idea as you can see from how poorly equipped our squad is right now and is why we are bottom of the league. Get rid of the stats guys and let someone who knows what to look for by actually watching a player decide who we buy. You will make more money in the long run I promise! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted January 4, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted January 4, 2016 49 minutes ago, New_Jersey_Villa said: Okay Randy here it is. FFS stop trying to run our football club as an American sports franchise. You need to hire people that actually know about FOOTBALL and not how to make the most profit selling overpriced hot dogs. I think you give Villa's current management far too much credit. They couldn't run an American football team either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted January 4, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted January 4, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, MikeMcKenna said: Like many VT-ers and other Villa fans I spend a fair amount of time online, and given that signing an online petition takes about 2/3 seconds, I cannot understand why so many cannot be bothered and keep playing the apathy card. I saw a comment on there using the term "American maffia" (sic). Jesus. Edited January 4, 2016 by Marka Ragnos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderPower_14 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Randy can't run an American football team either, Browns fans absolutely hated him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 5 hours ago, Cliffy Biro said: I get people are frustrated but petitions and protests are totally pointless and a waste of everyones time really, Lerner wants to sell so what would protesting about wanting him gone achieve? Put heat on him to lower the price and GTFO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 The petition doesn't even make sense. It states "sell the club to anybody who matches the original price" further down it states sell to "a savvy football organisation" so which is it? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 13 hours ago, PieFacE said: Not even worth wasting the time signing it... what do people expect to happen? Randy to turn around and say "Yeah, you're all right, i'm now going to leave my multi-million pound business in the hands of the fans to run?" SIGNED. get lost lerner you clown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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