smetrov Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Fox might run the club to a certain extent but Randy is still going to have the final say in anything that involves money. All im saying is Lerner does not have to be here to run the club. Yes - but he appointed the bloke who is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 What would relegation do to his legacy? For a club like ours to be relegated when there's this much money in football is horrendous ownership of the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Pretty sure the guys legacy is shot to ribbons anyway. 'I'm what you call the custodian. There have been plenty of custodians of Aston Villa since 1874 and if I can't make it work, I will do what the others did, move on and let someone else try.' The sooner he acts upon his own words the better. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 We would need 50 Million on players to get out of the Championship first time round and a team with fight. I doubt we are going to have either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 We would need 50 Million on players to get out of the Championship first time round and a team with fight. I doubt we are going to have either. I don't think we would. Why I fear we would not bounce back is how poorly we are run off the field - from top to bottom we are a mess - thats not a foundation for a good football team at any level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 We would need 50 Million on players to get out of the Championship first time round and a team with fight. I doubt we are going to have either. I don't think we would. Why I fear we would not bounce back is how poorly we are run off the field - from top to bottom we are a mess - thats not a foundation for a good football team at any level. There have been a lot of changes recently between the owner and the team so that seems a bit presumptuous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Possible team for the championship Guzan Hutton baker Clark bennett Bacuna westwood delph Grealish Kozak weimann We would piss that league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Guzan, Clark , Westwood and Delph we'd be in danger of losing. Possibly Weimann too if someone was willing to take a punt on him based on his first season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Didn't Newcastle keep a lot of their best players when they went down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 What would relegation do to his legacy? For a club like ours to be relegated when there's this much money in football is horrendous ownership of the club. Currently- on a par with Ellis. Relegation- worse than Ellis for me. Did anyone really envisage this less than a decade after he took over. I know you can't always predict football but we weren't sold this in summer 2006 that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Didn't Newcastle keep a lot of their best players when they went down? yes, but Im pretty sure they pay their players a million pounds a week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I wouldn't mind losing some even if we did go down or manage to stay up. Squad needs alot of work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Let's not forget you can get a ridiculous amount of loans in when you go down plus we'd still be a big draw for lower league players with the wages compared to most other clubs. That's what West Ham did anyway although they could still only get up through the play offs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 (edited) What would relegation do to his legacy? For a club like ours to be relegated when there's this much money in football is horrendous ownership of the club. Considering he came into the club claiming to be our honorable custodian he really has **** us over Edited February 22, 2015 by AshVilla 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 With our fanbase and infrastructure we would be the biggest team in the league by quite a distance. We should be favourites to come back up as long as Lerner doesn't do what Karl Oyston has done. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Didn't Newcastle keep a lot of their best players when they went down? Their owner has a lot more money than Randy. Plus according to the papers as of a few years back we started putting clauses in playing and non playing staff's contracts where in the event of relegation wages are cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 "as of a few years back we started putting clauses in playing and non playing staff's contracts where in the event of relegation wages are cut". That shows the budget we have been working with since then was known to be insufficent to ensure we would retain our top flight status useless but that it was a risk the owner was prepared to take. It seems prudent now in our current sad situation but I doubt that Spurs or Everton for example felt the need to do the same back then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Seems the Mantra for today is "We left it to late before changing the manager" Well obviously yes - for a multitude of reasons - where does the responsibility for this decision lie ? - Randy, TF , or a combination of them both ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 23, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted February 23, 2015 The truth is we don't really know do we? If Lerner decides who the manager is then he's to blame. If he's left it up to Fox then Fox is to blame. If it's a joint decision they're both to blame. If Fox has the decision but he's been told by Lerner that we're only interested in staying in the league, then it's up for debate. I'd argue that until we lost that Hull game, relegation wasn't looking "likely". And by likely I mean MORE likely than staying up. It was quite obviously a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 The truth is we don't really know do we? If Lerner decides who the manager is then he's to blame. If he's left it up to Fox then Fox is to blame. If it's a joint decision they're both to blame. If Fox has the decision but he's been told by Lerner that we're only interested in staying in the league, then it's up for debate. I'd argue that until we lost that Hull game, relegation wasn't looking "likely". And by likely I mean MORE likely than staying up. It was quite obviously a possibility. It does seem changing the manager wasn't on the agenda until the Hull game - that in itself I find very worrying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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