Guest av1 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Do the people moaning about the atmosphere do anything about it at the ground? Try to start any chants around them? Or do they just moan if others don't start something for them to join in? IMO it has to come from the Upper Holte. I agree. Been a holte ST holder for many a year and have no issue with starting a chant or encouraging people to start. However, on occassions when I've gone down with family/friends and sat in the trinity/DE I almost feel like I can't, stand up alone and sing results in someone telling you to sit the **** down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 I'd like the atmosphere to be better at times but I haven't got the balls to stand up and try to get groups to chant and make noise so certainly won't moan if others don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 It's a bit of a catch-22 situation really. We all accept the atmosphere at VP is lacking somewhat but it's difficult for us to do anything about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 (edited) The atmosphere is flat across 99% of the ground in England, look at turkey & germany for how clubs can help make an atmosphere by making fans feel involved, in England its "thanks for spending £40 on a ticket, now sit down, watch the game and go home". Edited September 17, 2013 by Jimzk5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted September 17, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted September 17, 2013 Well that result on the weekend has completely zapped my enthusiasm for this season. It's going to be a very similar season to last season imo. Playing shite at home is getting pretty tiresome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Said it from day.... we need defenders. Not loads of strikers, cams and wingers. Defenders. And now PL looks like he could pay the price big time. We don't need defenders.....we need players who can defend. There is a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 (edited) Well that result on the weekend has completely zapped my enthusiasm for this season. It's going to be a very similar season to last season imo. Playing shite at home is getting pretty tiresome. IMO we need to get behind the team, we need to continue our support, we need to continue to sing at Home and away matches...but by Christ we need to let them know....(not booing) no more of that tripe. That game will not be put right at Norwich, different game, different circumstances, we just need a win...separate issue is putting home form right. Getting behind the team is not the same as watching poor decisions from the manager and owners as acceptable. They need to be told. Edited September 17, 2013 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Paul Lambert has in some quarters deemed himself to be a thinking man. It's how I would like to see him too? IMO He needs to organise his team away from this Gungho approach and in to a thinking mans...... grow in to the game approach....stop conceding schoolboy goals and gradually ascert ourselves in to scoring. Whether we have the personnel to do it or not that's what we should be aiming for. Can I hear some noises from the management ....words to that degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwan Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 You're not going to hear anything from management. It'll be all PR and we go again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 (edited) I thought it would be bad on here and have not been dissappointed. What a lot of headless chickens everywhere - there are even people pointing to the 'Table'- after 4 games !!!!! How about having a bit of perspective ? I see it with Liverpool - a last minute penalty saved against Stoke, hung on in Second Half against us, yet suddenly they are going to win the League and Sturridge is George Best. We beat Arsenal, are unlucky against Chelsea, deserve at least a point against Liverpool, and suffer our first defeat to a non Top 6 side since January and it is crisis time. I'm not saying all is perfect, but just wait and see, the season has barely started FFS ! Edited September 17, 2013 by terrytini 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers13 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 I thought it would be bad on here and have not been dissappointed. What a lot of headless chickens everywhere - there are even people pointing to the 'Table'- after 4 games !!!!! How about having a bit of perspective ? I see it with Liverpool - a last minute penalty saved against Stoke, hung on in Second Half against us, yet suddenly they are going to win the League and Sturridge is George Best. We beat Arsenal, are unlucky against Chelsea, deserve at least a point against Liverpool, and suffer our first defeat to a non Top 6 side since January and it is crisis time. I'm not saying all is perfect, but just wait and see, the season has barely started FFS ! Perfect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 I thought it would be bad on here and have not been dissappointed. What a lot of headless chickens everywhere - there are even people pointing to the 'Table'- after 4 games !!!!! How about having a bit of perspective ? I see it with Liverpool - a last minute penalty saved against Stoke, hung on in Second Half against us, yet suddenly they are going to win the League and Sturridge is George Best. We beat Arsenal, are unlucky against Chelsea, deserve at least a point against Liverpool, and suffer our first defeat to a non Top 6 side since January and it is crisis time. I'm not saying all is perfect, but just wait and see, the season has barely started FFS ! Interesting....and "we go again" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 I thought it would be bad on here and have not been dissappointed. What a lot of headless chickens everywhere - there are even people pointing to the 'Table'- after 4 games !!!!! How about having a bit of perspective ? I see it with Liverpool - a last minute penalty saved against Stoke, hung on in Second Half against us, yet suddenly they are going to win the League and Sturridge is George Best. We beat Arsenal, are unlucky against Chelsea, deserve at least a point against Liverpool, and suffer our first defeat to a non Top 6 side since January and it is crisis time. I'm not saying all is perfect, but just wait and see, the season has barely started FFS ! I never understand these 'wait and see posts'. People see an event, be it signing a new player, a good result , or an Injury - and comment on how this will effect the club in the future. Yes we are only 4 games in - but people are looking at those 4 games and other incidents around the club - and are offering there view on how the season will pan out.......Weve lost 3 on the bounce and are down to our last 2 fit centre halves and haven't kept a clean sheet for 26 games.....IMO theres enough substance to suggest a bumpy ride ahead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1974Centenary Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 I thought it would be bad on here and have not been dissappointed. What a lot of headless chickens everywhere - there are even people pointing to the 'Table'- after 4 games !!!!! How about having a bit of perspective ? I see it with Liverpool - a last minute penalty saved against Stoke, hung on in Second Half against us, yet suddenly they are going to win the League and Sturridge is George Best. We beat Arsenal, are unlucky against Chelsea, deserve at least a point against Liverpool, and suffer our first defeat to a non Top 6 side since January and it is crisis time. I'm not saying all is perfect, but just wait and see, the season has barely started FFS ! What do you suggest we point at after 4 games? It seems to me that we spent most of last season pointing at the same table with very little to brag about.Liverpool hardly hung on in the second half,i felt they were completely in control of the game and we were totally bereft of any ideas when we tried to break down their defense.Losing to a non top six side since January is hardly relevant in this the new season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted September 17, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted September 17, 2013 Well that result on the weekend has completely zapped my enthusiasm for this season. It's going to be a very similar season to last season imo. Playing shite at home is getting pretty tiresome. IMO we need to get behind the team, we need to continue our support, we need to continue to sing at Home and away matches...but by Christ we need to let them know....(not booing) no more of that tripe. That game will not be put right at Norwich, different game, different circumstances, we just need a win...separate issue is putting home form right. Getting behind the team is not the same as watching poor decisions from the manager and owners as acceptable. They need to be told. I agree. I'll always support the team no matter what. But I really convinced myself that Lambert knew what he was doing. But he really doesn't know how to get this team defending or playing well at home. We'll have plenty of exciting games away though. It's just a bit frustrating that most fans get to look forward to seeing their teams playing at home, but for us we're just so much better away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Well that result on the weekend has completely zapped my enthusiasm for this season. It's going to be a very similar season to last season imo. Playing shite at home is getting pretty tiresome. IMO we need to get behind the team, we need to continue our support, we need to continue to sing at Home and away matches...but by Christ we need to let them know....(not booing) no more of that tripe. That game will not be put right at Norwich, different game, different circumstances, we just need a win...separate issue is putting home form right. Getting behind the team is not the same as watching poor decisions from the manager and owners as acceptable. They need to be told. I agree. I'll always support the team no matter what. But I really convinced myself that Lambert knew what he was doing. But he really doesn't know how to get this team defending or playing well at home. We'll have plenty of exciting games away though. It's just a bit frustrating that most fans get to look forward to seeing their teams playing at home, but for us we're just so much better away. He does know what he is doing. I think it just that what he is doing isn't working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Liverpool hardly 'hung-on' in the second-half, they came out after half-time happy to sit back and give us possession knowing full-well that we lacked the quality to break them down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Liverpool were very lucky to take 3 points from that game. I was there. They hardly touched the ball in the 2nd half. We were a whisker away from getting a point, and it all could have changed after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Liverpool were very lucky to take 3 points from that game. I was there. They hardly touched the ball in the 2nd half. We were a whisker away from getting a point, and it all could have changed after that. That wasn't how I remembered it. Thought we had a couple of chances late on - but liverpool (sadly) were good value for three points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Yes it was their decision for us to have the ball though. It's called sitting back. They didn't even bother to press us on the ball until we reached their third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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