Popular Post villa4europe Posted January 27, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 27, 2017 Calexit is a shit name, everyone should get their own like when Europe cracks up italeave, espcape, nethershouldhavejoinedinthefirstplace 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 21 minutes ago, Villaphan04 said: Calexit may now be a thing Don't like that. Should be Caxit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted January 27, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted January 27, 2017 Calexito - Gives it a bit of latin flair. My wife is from Cali and she says we should give it back to Mexico. That would be the best FU to Trump. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trekka Posted January 27, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted January 27, 2017 Interesting press conference just. May and Trump are showing all the signs of a love-in but well done to Laura at the BBC for asking the awkward questions right at the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Can't blame California, they're pretty culturally distinct from the big belt of dense really bad people that put Trump in the white house. There have been unproven claims that a few years ago Steve Bannon, Trump's chief strategist, told an interviewer that his goal was to destroy the establishment and the state. He may well be delighted by this news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 I'll file the Californian thingy in my invisible filling cabinet next to the file on people who were going to leave the UK if we voted leave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted January 27, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted January 27, 2017 http://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/1/27/14395978/donald-trump-lamar-smith Quote On Monday, Rep. Lamar Smith of Texas, who has previously praised Trump’s “stamina” and “conviction,” gave a floor speech in the House in which lauded the president, celebrating his many accomplishments. According to Smith, you may not be familiar with those accomplishments, because the media won’t tell you. “Better to get your news directly from the president,” Smith said. “In fact, it might be the only way to get the unvarnished truth.” Let that sink in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 His stamina eh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 He was tweeting about the 3 million illegal votes again today. His evidence? A mobile app that allows voters to input alleged voter fraud incidents. That app apparently has around 10,000 downloads. I would suggest the maths doesn't quite stack up. The developer of the app, Gregg Philiips (who appears to be a tea party type nutjob), was taken apart in a tv interview earlier. Apparently he knows for definite that there were actually more than 3 million illegal votes, but hes not going to release the proof yet. I thought Trump would rein it in once he got into office, but he appears to be doubling down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Talking of voter fraud. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/12/01/0-000002-percent-of-all-the-ballots-cast-in-the-2016-election-were-fraudulent/?utm_term=.98255263c882 Quote There have been just four documented cases of voter fraud in the 2016 election Three weeks ago, the votes of more than 135 million Americans were counted, and Donald Trump was declared the winner of the 2016 presidential election. It was a surprising result, given that polling in the run-up to the election suggested that Hillary Clinton's support in the Midwest would ensure that she could hit 270 electoral votes. That support didn't exist when it came time to vote, and that was that. It seemed very likely as Nov. 8 approached that Trump was poised to reject the result, regardless of which states fell into which candidate's column. For months, he'd been alleging that voter fraud was rampant and that his supporters needed to police the polls. Rather amazingly, he has picked up the same thread after the election, charging that Clinton won the popular vote (by 2.5 million votes and counting) solely because of fraudulent ballots. There wasn't evidence of widespread voter fraud before the election. There isn't evidence of widespread voter fraud afterward, either. In fact, there's not evidence of even modest voter fraud. House Majority Leader ducks questions on Trump's allegations of voter fraud in California Embed Share Play Video1:47 Speaking to The Washington Post Tuesday, House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy said he trusted the results of the election in his home state of California. “I looked at this election. I saw the results come in. I trusted them (the results) just as I’ve trusted them in the past,” McCarthy said. "I don’t have a problem," Asked if he saw any signs of fraud, McCarthy did not say yes or no, but replied, “I say let’s govern.” He added that he didn’t think a recount would make any difference in the election outcome. “The election to me is over," he said. (Washington Post Live)(Washington Post Live) We combed through the news-aggregation system Nexis to find demonstrated cases of absentee or in-person voter fraud — which is to say, examples of people getting caught casting a ballot that they shouldn't have cast — during this election. This excludes examples of voter registration fraud — the filing of fraudulent information. Those aren't votes cast — and given that organizations often provide incentives for employees to register as many people as possible, registration fraud cases (while still rare) are more common. Here's what we found: Cases of voter fraud A woman in Iowa who voted twice. Terri Lynn Rote had the enormous misfortune of bad timing. Right as the candidate she supported, Trump, was drawing attention to fraud cases, Rote decided to try to vote twice in Des Moines, and got caught. The case made national headlines simply by virtue of the fact that it happened when it did, and that she voted for Trump. For what it's worth, she suggested that the fault lay with Trump. “The polls are rigged,” she said to a local radio station by way of explaining her multiple votes, echoing another of Trump's complaints. A man in Texas who voted twice. Phillip Cook was arrested on Election Day after voting twice. He claimed to be an employee of Trump's campaign who was testing the security of the electoral system. He wasn't an employee of the campaign — and the polling location's security worked perfectly well, it seems. A woman who cast a ballot on behalf of her dead husband. Audrey Cook is a Republican election judge in Illinois. She and her husband applied for absentee ballots because he was ill. He died before completing his, so she filled it out for him and sent it in. The ballot will not be counted. A woman in Florida who marked absentee ballots. Gladys Coego was hired to open absentee ballots in Miami-Dade County. One of her co-workers noticed that she was going a step further, filling in the bubble for a mayoral candidate with a pen she had in her purse. She was caught in the act and arrested. There's no evidence that she changed any presidential votes. Possible cases of voter fraud Two possible cases of fraud in Washington state. Investigators are looking at two possible cases of fraud near the Idaho border. In the first, a man may have signed his deceased wife's name on an absentee ballot; in the second, someone may have voted in both states. Charges have not been filed in either case. A possible case in South Carolina. A man in the Palmetto State is being investigated on suspicion of voting both by absentee ballot and in person. Ballots are being challenged in North Carolina. Because of the close gubernatorial race in North Carolina, several dozen ballots were challenged by Republicans as having been cast by convicted felons in the state. An independent group found that at least 18 of the 43 alleged cases of fraud were not fraud at all, instead confusing valid voters with people who were ineligible given their status. There's not yet any verification that the other ballots were from ineligible voters, either. [We checked Trump’s allegations of voter fraud. We found no evidence at all.] And that's the end of the list. We will happily add any other examples that people might offer, but note that we are looking only at voter fraud. That means that things such as the following don't count: Cases from prior elections. Vague allegations of fraud, even from people in positions of authority. Jokes. People involved in this campaign who were accused of fraud from previous contests. Possible iffiness in states where recounts are being initiated. And, again, voter registration fraud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 22 hours ago, snowychap said: Yes. You appear to have missed the point of what Hanoi has posted: In his campaign, he clearly said that 'torture works' and that waterboarding wasn't far enough (an opinion which he has expressed again once President). The clear implication (if it wasn't made explicitly) was that torture was a way of combatting ISIS (and perhaps others). In his interview (and elswewhere, I think), he has said that he thinks it [torture] works but has been told by some (Mattis for one) that it doesn't and others [unnamed] that it does. He has said that he'll go by whatever he is told works best. He is not taking a position on torture out of any principal - whatever is most expedient (or rather whatever he is told most loud or most convincingly is most effective) is the way he will go. All of that suggests that he was not committed on the topic out of serious thought on the morality but rather what would best sell himself to a particular sector of the electorate. A grim, despicable and, frankly, utterly incredible man. It simply represents American society. No pretending anymore, and what a surprise it's not liked by a lot of people who have no problem as long as we pretend it's not happening. I'm not aiming this at you, but this comment describes the unfortunately ignorant/uncaring masses. E.g., Million of people in prison for profit. Plenty of people in favor of the death penalty, eye-for an eye... because bible or some such symplistic nonsense. No concern whatsoever about bombing the absolute snot out of other nations. No particular concern about the militarization of the police force. No particular concern about the same police force, who kill with impunity. No particular concern about a surveillance state. No particular concern about a president assuming dictatorial powers. I could continue. This is not an exclusively American problem. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, villakram said: I'm not aiming this at you Good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mjmooney Posted January 28, 2017 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2017 16 hours ago, villa4europe said: Calexit is a shit name, everyone should get their own like when Europe cracks up italeave, espcape, nethershouldhavejoinedinthefirstplace 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted January 28, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted January 28, 2017 Trump has a copy (has to have it read to him, mind)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 43 minutes ago, mjmooney said: Oui Out, that's a good one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzap24 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Well, one thing is for sure, he does actually seem intent on giving his supporters what they voted for. Smart enough to only piss off half the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 3 hours ago, mjmooney said: Read in the mail today that the Netherlands are on the verge of leaving if the right wing get in. Nationalism= right wing these days. I honestly think if given chance America and the U.K. Can be better countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted January 28, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted January 28, 2017 12 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: I honestly think if given chance America and the U.K. Can be better countries. For white, straight non-immigrants. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) Permanent US residents holding green cards are being turned away at airports when they try to reenter the United States, if they're from the countries banned by Trump's executive order. What a **** shit show. Curiously, the list doesn't include Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Lebanon, or Afghanistan. You know, the countries whose citizens have committed terrorist acts in the US. Presumably they buy too much shit for them to be turned away. Wouldn't want to upset the Saudis..Just turn away enough brown folk that the dumb **** who vote Trump are happy. US residents who live permanently in the country, with their families and jobs there, who have briefly left the country are being refused entry when they try to return home. You have to be pretty **** in the head to think that this is ok. Edited January 28, 2017 by Davkaus 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 9 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: For white, straight non-immigrants. Give it a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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