limpid Posted 2 hours ago Administrator Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, AXD said: Or, they thought they had two options. 1) Get the bill through and claim they solved it (as they met most/all of Rs demands). Close to elections, it would still be top of mind 2) if the bill failed, they have a stick to beat Rs with (‘you don’t want to solve anything’) they got the second option, but did not foresee the MAGA crowd not reasoning. Rs blocked the bill, but MAGA don’t take that into account, ‘the border is a problem and has not been fixed’ is all that matters. The bill was led by a Republican with cross party support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago (edited) I was struck by how Trump and his minions have done exactly what the tories did here, to intentionally weaken the system for dealing with immigrants - then claim they have the solutions to fix it. I suppose at least Trump got his numbers down one way or another, compared to Suank and the Rwanda scheme. Edited 1 hour ago by Jareth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted 1 hour ago VT Supporter Share Posted 1 hour ago Sounds like Trump is closing the gap to Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted 49 minutes ago Moderator Share Posted 49 minutes ago 18 minutes ago, sidcow said: Sounds like Trump is closing the gap to Harris That is the second time you've done this and hopefully the second time you've been wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted 44 minutes ago VT Supporter Share Posted 44 minutes ago 3 minutes ago, bickster said: That is the second time you've done this and hopefully the second time you've been wrong I read the news channels. People then post social media stuff saying the opposite. Hopefully Internet randoms are more on the ball than traditional news sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted 41 minutes ago Share Posted 41 minutes ago 27 minutes ago, sidcow said: Sounds like Trump is closing the gap to Harris Still behind in the probability to be elected calculations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted 33 minutes ago Moderator Share Posted 33 minutes ago 10 minutes ago, sidcow said: I read the news channels. People then post social media stuff saying the opposite. Hopefully Internet randoms are more on the ball than traditional news sources. I wouldn't trust either of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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