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5 hours ago, Davkaus said:

Just as a minor aside, there have been half a dozen others, but he's the first for nearly 60 years (the last one was Lyndon Johnson), so your point about it not being the norm is still very fair.

Money shot about a minute in, very famous quote 

 

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24 minutes ago, Nor-Cal Villan said:

Money shot about a minute in, very famous quote 

 

Money shot is a very apt term for a video featuring Lyndon Johnson, from what I hear :D 

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3 minutes ago, Nor-Cal Villan said:

There are countless nasty legends about LBJ 😜

Are there any squeaky clean ones?

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1 hour ago, Demitri_C said:

No wars under his term too

Except for Afghanistan and Syria that is, since we're polishing Trump's stats.

Afghanistan was ended by Biden, not Trump.

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10 minutes ago, magnkarl said:

Except for Afghanistan and Syria that is, since we're polishing Trump's stats.

Afghanistan was ended by Biden, not Trump.

Those were started before trumps terms?

Yes we all remember the withdrawal feom Afghanistan!

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40 minutes ago, Demitri_C said:

Those were started before trumps terms?

Yes we all remember the withdrawal feom Afghanistan!

Okay, so we're back-pedaling from 'He didn't have any wars' to 'He didn't start any wars'?

Who started the Afghanistan war? Starts with R and ends with epublican.

Trump utilised more drone-strikes than Biden, sold more arms to SA and Israel than Biden.

The 'Trump didn't have any wars' argument is another MAGA talking point, just like the total whitewash of his horrendous tenure as president the last time around. Trump almost started a war with China and couldn't find Greenland on a map.

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22 minutes ago, magnkarl said:

Okay, so we're back-pedaling from 'He didn't have any wars' to 'He didn't start any wars'?

Who started the Afghanistan war? Starts with R and ends with epublican.

Trump utilised more drone-strikes than Biden, sold more arms to SA and Israel than Biden.

The 'Trump didn't have any wars' argument is another MAGA talking point, just like the total whitewash of his horrendous tenure as president the last time around. Trump almost started a war with China and couldn't find Greenland on a map.

  Huh ? Back peddling what you on about ? The question was about why do people like trump and one of the points being made by his voters is the one i described. 

He didnt start a way with china though thats the facts.

Not defending trump just merely pointing to one point they say why they like him. Facts are two wars have started in bidens term so the other side will use that. Im pretty sure if that was under trump the other side would say the same thing 

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40 minutes ago, Demitri_C said:

  Huh ? Back peddling what you on about ? The question was about why do people like trump and one of the points being made by his voters is the one i described. 

He didnt start a way with china though thats the facts.

Not defending trump just merely pointing to one point they say why they like him. Facts are two wars have started in bidens term so the other side will use that. Im pretty sure if that was under trump the other side would say the same thing 

You wrote he 'didn't have any wars', he did. That's all I'm saying. You didn't write 'He didn't start any wars'. Trump had just as much of a chance to withdraw fram Afghanistan as Biden did - if we're playing the 'Trump not bad' card.

Biden didn't start the two wars you're referring to either. The last war the US started was started by Bush and Blair. By your logic, Trump should then also take responsibility for all the wars started in his tenure, if we're judging Biden for wars he didn't start.

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2 hours ago, magnkarl said:

You wrote he 'didn't have any wars', he did. That's all I'm saying. You didn't write 'He didn't start any wars'. Trump had just as much of a chance to withdraw fram Afghanistan as Biden did - if we're playing the 'Trump not bad' card.

Biden didn't start the two wars you're referring to either. The last war the US started was started by Bush and Blair. By your logic, Trump should then also take responsibility for all the wars started in his tenure, if we're judging Biden for wars he didn't start.

we are getting nowhere. Lets agree to disagree. 

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4 hours ago, Demitri_C said:

Those were started before trumps terms?

Yes we all remember the withdrawal feom Afghanistan!

Mate, in January 2021 the military chiefs had to secretly contact China to reassure them they wouldn't let Trump do anything stupid that might kick off a war. 

He was so self serving he literally could have done anything. A menace to the world us what he is.

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So Shady Vance is trying a new attack angle on Walz by saying he quit the military as he knew his unit would be sent to Iraq. Now he's pissed off every veteran in the US. The stolen valour and running away card is not working great for Shady as he himself quit the military only 180 days into his tour in Iraq. It amazes me how little insight this guy has.

 

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2 hours ago, Rds1983 said:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/kamala-harris-running-mate-tim-walz-pictured-1995-nebraska-mugshot-after-dui-arrest

"Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz arrested in 1995 on suspicion of drunken driving"

Their latest line of attack. 

That photo is pretty damning, let's hope the Trump ticket doesn't have any similar photos or accusations for worse crimes 🤞

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1 hour ago, MessiWillSignForVilla said:

That photo is pretty damning, let's hope the Trump ticket doesn't have any similar photos or accusations for worse crimes 🤞

 

1 hour ago, Dodgyknees said:

Let's hope the republican presidential nominee doesn't have... Oh.

Haven't you heard? Crimes only count if you're a Democrat.

And even if it was 30 year's ago they're still important, after all he paid a full $200 fine.

Just ignore the fact that he now doesn't drink alcohol (although that probably paints him in a bad light to MAGA) and appear to have rehabilitated previous bad habits.

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The third trending tag on Trump's social media platform is #trumpIsaCoward, seems even his crowd thinks not debating is cowardly.

It's all going to plan for Donny.

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