Rodders Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 14 minutes ago, pas5898 said: Trump is divisive. Any semi normal - middle of the road candidate would beat him. That's why the dems persisting with a clearly declining Biden for so long was confusing. They could have put anyone of 10 candidates up against Trump 5/6 months ago and won comfortably. Ironically I can't help but wonder if this late switch in candidates will actually help the Democrats. Maybe not, but feels like getting good vibes and positive momentum now is pretty helpful 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pas5898 Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 1 minute ago, Rodders said: Ironically I can't help but wonder if this late switch in candidates will actually help the Democrats. Maybe not, but feels like getting good vibes and positive momentum now is pretty helpful The whole happy clapping feel good factor is an attempt to cover the stench of the democrats / Biden administration completely lying and covering up the severity of Bidens decline. If they can make the public forget about Biden, then any "normal" candidate will easily win when it comes to voting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zen Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 Walz is extremely likeable. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 (edited) 17 minutes ago, pas5898 said: The whole happy clapping feel good factor is an attempt to cover the stench of the democrats / Biden administration completely lying and covering up the severity of Bidens decline. If they can make the public forget about Biden, then any "normal" candidate will easily win when it comes to voting. What stench? Sure, the timing was a bit off, but he's afaik the only president ever to not run for re-election after holding office. He's broken the norm, and the timing seems to have been great when you now look at the last two weeks. Do you think Trump would give up the presidential office due to his mental capacity? The stench argument is one Fox/MAGA have and are running with as hard as they can because they literally don't want to talk about their policies which are right out of Gilead, and they can't for the life of them find anything to attack Walz/Kamala with that isn't simple name calling. Trump's social media posts are getting more and more deranged and childish by the hour. It's working for the democrats. Edited August 7 by magnkarl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted August 7 Administrator Share Posted August 7 16 minutes ago, pas5898 said: The whole happy clapping feel good factor is an attempt to cover the stench of the democrats / Biden administration completely lying and covering up the severity of Bidens decline. If they can make the public forget about Biden, then any "normal" candidate will easily win when it comes to voting. The evidence of them speaking suggests Trump is in worse decline than Biden. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 7 VT Supporter Share Posted August 7 1 hour ago, Captain_Townsend said: If Trump was a tyre, you can sort of feel the air leaving it. Harris and Ealz were very impressive last night Trump? He's just in charge of a bunch of weirdos. This expression needs to stick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Townsend Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 26 minutes ago, magnkarl said: What stench? Sure, the timing was a bit off, but he's afaik the only president ever to not run for re-election after holding office. He's broken the norm, and the timing seems to have been great when you now look at the last two weeks. Do you think Trump would give up the presidential office due to his mental capacity? The stench argument is one Fox/MAGA have and are running with as hard as they can because they literally don't want to talk about their policies which are right out of Gilead, and they can't for the life of them find anything to attack Walz/Kamala with that isn't simple name calling. Trump's social media posts are getting more and more deranged and childish by the hour. It's working for the democrats. Biden's decline is over stated. Yes he is old but he is still better than given credit. Saw him perform in Ireland in April 2023, not exactly ancient history! Besides, delaying his withdrawal has messed up Trump's strategy. Trump spent the entire RNC attacking Biden, and the GOP line was that Biden was too old. Well, now how does that look that Biden is no longer the candidate and Trump is the old man? Clever strategy from the Dems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 (edited) 34 minutes ago, magnkarl said: What stench? Sure, the timing was a bit off, but he's afaik the only president ever to not run for re-election after holding office. Just as a minor aside, there have been half a dozen others, but he's the first for nearly 60 years (the last one was Lyndon Johnson), so your point about it not being the norm is still very fair. Edited August 7 by Davkaus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 Just now, Davkaus said: Just as a minor aside, there have been half a dozen others, but he's the first for nearly 60 years (the last one was Lyndon Johnson), so you're point about it not being the norm is still very fair. Thanks, handy info for a pub quiz! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 4 minutes ago, Captain_Townsend said: Biden's decline is over stated. Yes he is old but he is still better than given credit. Saw him perform in Ireland in April 2023, not exactly ancient history! 16 months is absolutely ancient history when talking about an elderly person who's in cognitive decline, which he very, very clearly is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 7 VT Supporter Share Posted August 7 (edited) 54 minutes ago, El Zen said: Walz is extremely likeable. I was just thinking that. I mean it's all showmanship obviously, but he does just come across as a likeable, every day guy with a bit of humour about him. You'd probably have a great time down the pub with him. Big contrast to the GOP. Could have been a genius move this. Edited August 7 by sidcow 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zen Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 7 minutes ago, sidcow said: I was just thinking that. I mean it's all showmanship obviously, but he does just come across as a likeable, every day guy with a bit of humour about him. You'd probably have a great time down the pub with him. Big contrast to the GOP. Could have been a genius move this. The old «who would you rather have a beer with» factor. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted August 7 VT Supporter Share Posted August 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 7 VT Supporter Share Posted August 7 14 minutes ago, choffer said: Oh god. Wait till Musk gets hold of that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 7 minutes ago, sidcow said: Oh god. Wait till Musk gets hold of that. And all of “them lot” too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post magnkarl Posted August 7 Popular Post Share Posted August 7 (edited) 29 minutes ago, choffer said: This is the message that wins the election. There are those who fight for 10-year olds to have free lunches, then there are those who fight for the same kids to have to carry a child to term even if they're raped. I don't get how anyone can vote for the current GOP-gaggle. Edited August 7 by magnkarl 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted August 7 VT Supporter Share Posted August 7 4 hours ago, The Fun Factory said: Yes he is a dangerous fellow, what with having free school meals in his state and wanting women having the right to have an abortion. Well there you go. Commie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 On 06/08/2024 at 08:20, bobzy said: From memory, unemployment fell under Trump. I think that’s about it? No wars under his term too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 (edited) 3 hours ago, choffer said: Looks far too much of a dangerous radical in my eyes. Edited August 7 by The Fun Factory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nor-Cal Villan Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 6 hours ago, Rodders said: Ironically I can't help but wonder if this late switch in candidates will actually help the Democrats. Maybe not, but feels like getting good vibes and positive momentum now is pretty helpful It’s still a long way to November Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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