DCJonah Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 16 hours ago, Davkaus said: I should be an analyst https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-no-poll-boost-after-assassination-attempt-us-election-1925680 Doesn't surprise me. The idea that this shooting was going to make loads of people either decide to vote for him or switch their vote for him seemed crazy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 Guess we will see at the election as it was close with trump ahead before the shooting. If its wider than that they have got it wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 42 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Doesn't surprise me. The idea that this shooting was going to make loads of people either decide to vote for him or switch their vote for him seemed crazy. No one claimed it would switch voters to him. It has energised his voters and energised voters are more likely to actually follow through and vote. Meanwhile Biden is busy putting his voters to sleep. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 2 hours ago, LondonLax said: No one claimed it would switch voters to him. It has energised his voters and energised voters are more likely to actually follow through and vote. Meanwhile Biden is busy putting his voters to sleep. Good point LL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 (edited) 2 hours ago, LondonLax said: No one claimed it would switch voters to him. It has energised his voters and energised voters are more likely to actually follow through and vote. Meanwhile Biden is busy putting his voters to sleep. I think the threat of trump and what the supreme court is doing also energises voters. Many people predicted a red wave in the last mid terms but it didn't happen. Voters were energised by what the republicans were doing with abortion and other issues. Edited July 17 by DCJonah 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 2 minutes ago, DCJonah said: I think the threat of trump and what the supreme court is doing also energises voters. Many people predicted a red wave in the last mid terms but it didn't happen. Voters were energised by what the republicans were doing with abortion and other issues. I agree, like what we saw in France, people who generally don’t vote might feel more compelled than usual to do so to block another Trump term. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted July 17 VT Supporter Share Posted July 17 2 minutes ago, DCJonah said: I think the threat of trump and what the supreme court is doing also energises voters. Many people predicted a red wave in the last mid terms but it didn't happen. Voters were energised by what the republicans were doing with abortion and other issues. I think that is the only last slim hope - that there are enough reasonable people left who have woken up to how dangerous Trump is, that they'll turn out and vote for Biden, even against their better judgement, as a 'just stop Trump' vote. I can't really see it, though. And the MAGAs are so confident of a win, their 'stolen election' conspiracy would kick off even bigger than last time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 19 minutes ago, Genie said: I agree, like what we saw in France, people who generally don’t vote might feel more compelled than usual to do so to block another Trump term. What happened in France does give some hope. People should be energised by the serious threat 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 1 hour ago, DCJonah said: I think the threat of trump and what the supreme court is doing also energises voters. Many people predicted a red wave in the last mid terms but it didn't happen. Voters were energised by what the republicans were doing with abortion and other issues. Yes, I think the Democrat vote will largely be anti Trump rather than much genuine enthusiasm for Biden. Which is why I can’t understand this claim that it’s too late to change candidates because “the new candidate doesn’t have Biden’s name recognition.” 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colhint Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 Could be a big problem if Biden wins a real close one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wainy316 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 Starting to wish Trump won in 2020. That way he'd be almost done for good and the Democrats would probably be going into the election, more likely to win and with someone other than Biden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 18 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: Starting to wish Trump won in 2020. That way he'd be almost done for good and the Democrats would probably be going into the election, more likely to win and with someone other than Biden. A sliding doors moment with a football equivalent, perhaps, of us losing that first playoff final under Bruce, but with opposite wins and losses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 1 hour ago, Wainy316 said: Starting to wish Trump won in 2020. That way he'd be almost done for good and the Democrats would probably be going into the election, more likely to win and with someone other than Biden. No, you'd have his son or some other member of the clan following him. He'd have had 4 more years to destroy things and set up his dictatorship. His loss, the attempted coup, his legal troubles, all potentially make people stand up and got him away again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LondonLax Posted July 17 Popular Post Share Posted July 17 44 minutes ago, Rolta said: A sliding doors moment with a football equivalent, perhaps, of us losing that first playoff final under Bruce, but with opposite wins and losses. The biggest ‘sliding doors moment’ was the Gore - Bush ‘hanging chads’ election. Imagine a world with no Iraq war, with genuine climate change action starting 20 years ago etc, and all taken away because Gore’s winning votes in Florida were disqualified by Republican judges. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 1 hour ago, DCJonah said: His loss, the attempted coup, his legal troubles, all potentially make people stand up and got him away again. And yet here we are, so close to letting him back in, completely escaping punishment for trying to steal the presidency. At least his supporters won't be able to pretend that they didn't know. Including his own Vice President calling him "a moral disaster", "American's Hitler", but going along for the ride. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 1 hour ago, LondonLax said: The biggest ‘sliding doors moment’ was the Gore - Bush ‘hanging chads’ election. Imagine a world with no Iraq war, with genuine climate change action starting 20 years ago etc, and all taken away because Gore’s winning votes in Florida were disqualified by Republican judges. Yeah that's quite depressing to think about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted July 17 VT Supporter Share Posted July 17 Just mental. The modern day Democratic Party are center right. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 (edited) Trumps chances of winning election declining Quote Donald Trump's chances of winning the November 2024 presidential election are declining, according to a new aggregation of polls. Good read. A lot of the media seem to be portraying it as it's already over. Yet recent polls aren't showing that. Edited July 17 by DCJonah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nor-Cal Villan Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 5 hours ago, LondonLax said: Yes, I think the Democrat vote will largely be anti Trump rather than much genuine enthusiasm for Biden. Same as in 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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