sne Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 1 minute ago, Panto_Villan said: Vance is one of the major intellectual forces behind Trumpism / MAGA these days. Quite a dangerous character imo, a lot less of a clown than many of the other MAGA characters. Also an extreme opponent of Ukraine aid. Just read through his wiki, seems like exactly they type of guy Trump would pick, or have picked for him. No idea how he plays with the undecided masses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nor-Cal Villan Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 8 minutes ago, sne said: J.D. Vance to be named running mate for Trump apparently. Zero surprise there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaphan04 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 1 hour ago, sidcow said: I reckon he registered as a Republican voter just to throw people off the scent. Odd to have given to a Dem cause in 2021 then register Republican. Have they confirmed the dates he registered? Wouldn't be surprised if it was in the planning process for this. My friend (independent) who lives in Pennsylvania has done something similar -- in PA, in order to vote in a primary, you must be registered to that party. He did that with Republicans in 2016, and democrats in 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 The BBC show on the Trump attempted assassination seems it was down to Jebus and devine intervention and you could see the US flag fluttering in the wind that looked like an angel FFS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nor-Cal Villan Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 2 minutes ago, Villaphan04 said: My friend (independent) who lives in Pennsylvania has done something similar -- in PA, in order to vote in a primary, you must be registered to that party. He did that with Republicans in 2016, and democrats in 2020. Fairly common, especially in so-called swing states Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panto_Villan Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 39 minutes ago, sne said: Just read through his wiki, seems like exactly they type of guy Trump would pick, or have picked for him. No idea how he plays with the undecided masses. Not sure he's relevant to the election, particularly. Trump is too big a character for the VP to matter much. But I think he's more articulate and less gaffe-prone than the usual crowd of Trump sycophants so he's probably not a bad pick in that regard. I think the relevance comes in what direction he might pull a Trump administration if they get into power - or what he might do if Trump drops dead (or gets shot) and he becomes President himself. Hopefully he just gets sidelined and ends up being irrelevant like most VPs do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nor-Cal Villan Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Panto_Villan said: Not sure he's relevant to the election, particularly. Trump is too big a character for the VP to matter much. But I think he's more articulate and less gaffe-prone than the usual crowd of Trump sycophants so he's probably not a bad pick in that regard. I think the relevance comes in what direction he might pull a Trump administration if they get into power - or what he might do if Trump drops dead (or gets shot) and he becomes President himself. Hopefully he just gets sidelined and ends up being irrelevant like most VPs do. This. No matter what one might think of his politics, he’s extremely intelligent and competent and has the backing of billionaire Peter Thiel. Also, he leans hard into religion. As I said in previous days, he’s one to watch, and I mean that in multiple ways Assuming Trump is elected I would bet he doesn’t serve a full term. The KFC and McDonald’s and time will eventually do the job and whoever the VP is will, as predicted by Rush on 2112, assume control Edited July 15 by Nor-Cal Villan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nor-Cal Villan Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 For those who might not be all that familiar with J.D. Vance https://wapo.st/4bLj7pi Quote When Donald Trump first ran for president in 2016, one of his steadfast critics within the Republican Party was J.D. Vance — then a young lawyer and venture capitalist who in June of that year published a best-selling book about his upbringing in Appalachia and the Rust Belt. “I can’t stomach Trump,” Vance told NPR that August. “I’m a ‘Never Trump’ guy. I never liked him,” Vance told Charlie Rose in October 2016, weeks before Trump was elected president. By 2022, however, Vance ran for Senate and had changed his tune. He said he had been “wrong” for criticizing Trump, whom he defended as a “great” president. And on Monday, Vance’s about-face on Trump appeared to have paid off: In a post to his social media platform, Trump announced the 39-year-old Ohio Republican as his 2024 running mate, capping a meteoric rise for the GOP star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dog Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 I've always been interested in language and terms people use, particularly in the most powerful positions in the world. I can only quote two instances right now, but I'm sure there's plenty more, but American presidents or potential candidates seem to be able to say some very controversial things without actually saying them. "...there will be a bloodbath" - If that was said in a third world nation, I can't help but think there would be a lot more intervention or discussion at least. And after 11/9, George Dubya's use of "...crusade..." in one of his first interviews after what happened. It's a very specific term, I would guess with a lot of thought behind it too, but also very pertinent to the people that followed him and their beliefs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Dogg Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 The JD Vance pick is the hard right nutjobs setting themselves up for the next decade. Trump could drop dead any minute. Trump doesn't realise he's just a puppet for these bible bashing, gun loving, sister **** freak shows. This guy could take over from Trump a year into his potential presidency, then contest 2 more elections. Hello, Gilead. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LondonLax Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 He will be the Republican presidential candidate in 2028, he can take the MAGA hat when Trumps term limit comes up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted July 16 Author Share Posted July 16 18 hours ago, Davkaus said: It's absolutely astonishing to me that they knew there was a shooter, they're tracking him, and they aren't immediately rushing to cover Trump and get him off the stage This failure by the Secret Service will come as no surprise to the excellent Carol Leonnig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 8 hours ago, Nor-Cal Villan said: For those who might not be all that familiar with J.D. Vance https://wapo.st/4bLj7pi Feels like the Brexit days here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nor-Cal Villan Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 14 minutes ago, maqroll said: This failure by the Secret Service will come as no surprise to the excellent Carol Leonnig. She is good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StefanAVFC Posted July 16 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted July 16 Despite the ugly nature of the comments, it bodes well for the special relationship doesn’t it? 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nor-Cal Villan Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 24 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Despite the ugly nature of the comments, it bodes well for the special relationship doesn’t it? What a jackass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 It is quite funny when you compare it to how delicately our politicians tread when they're directly asked about their opinion on the mango mussolini. Obviously they talk about how important it is to respect the democratic mandate, and they will work with whoever the American people elect, be it Democrat or Republic. Then you've got this guy, completely untroubled by the burden of international diplomacy, unconstrained by reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 (edited) Yikes. But on the plus side surely we can now just put two fingers up to the bastards - no more red carpet for that lot. (By which I mean MAGAs) Edited July 16 by Jareth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 30 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Despite the ugly nature of the comments, it bodes well for the special relationship doesn’t it? The special relationship has been dead for years. Our armed forces are a litteral laughing stock in the US, and US advisors have indicated to our counterparts that we'll need to get our act together because at this rate we're not even top 5 in Europe. Look at it from the US perspective, they've invested a lot into their defense, and we've literally cut our once famed armed forces to shreds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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