Rds1983 Posted Sunday at 16:30 VT Supporter Share Posted Sunday at 16:30 39 minutes ago, Genie said: Everyone in the world suffered an inflation shock after covid and into the war in Ukraine. In the US it was much less severe than the rest of the developed world. They got inflation down much quicker than Europe. The UK was worse than others in the G7. Thats why it’s not fair to say Biden is to blame for cost of living. It’s also not fair to diminish our leaders from the mess here as they handled it worse than orhers. Trump was impeached twice as president. Plus a load of allegations of sexual assaults. Then also at 48 other potentially criminal offences. Table in the Link Don’t forget how he claimed the election was stolen, threatening judges, threatening vote counters and a small matter of inciting an insurrection. Remember the riots in Washington too (when he had a path cleared through the rioters so he could have a photo taken outside a closed church). To suggest Biden’s years are as bad as Trumps is ridiculous and nothing to do with a difference of opinion. Its like saying the last 5 years for Villa have been just as bad as Sha’s. This is a worry for me with the UK election imminent. Everyone saying it's the death of the Tories etc as Labour will landslide. If Trump can be as bad as he was, but then be this close again so soon, what's to stop people jumping back to the Tories in 5 year's time because Labour hasn't fixed everything (which will be impossible based on what they're inheriting). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nor-Cal Villan Posted Sunday at 17:14 Share Posted Sunday at 17:14 9 hours ago, nick76 said: and has vast experience, along with very competent and skilled support team whereas as Trump doesn’t and has problematic support teams. This, this, a thousand times this 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nor-Cal Villan Posted Sunday at 17:19 Share Posted Sunday at 17:19 4 hours ago, Jareth said: Trump represents a strong man, power, greed and selfishness. Biden is supposed to represent some sort of moral leadership and competency. Which side best represents America these days? I think it's Trump's version. Do you mean best represents, as in represents what is best for the country, or just more accurately represents the reality on the ground? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nor-Cal Villan Posted Sunday at 17:22 Share Posted Sunday at 17:22 2 hours ago, nick76 said: I’ve been called a piece of shit many times in my life so it’s appropriate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted Sunday at 17:41 Moderator Share Posted Sunday at 17:41 1 hour ago, Rds1983 said: This is a worry for me with the UK election imminent. Everyone saying it's the death of the Tories etc as Labour will landslide. If Trump can be as bad as he was, but then be this close again so soon, what's to stop people jumping back to the Tories in 5 year's time because Labour hasn't fixed everything (which will be impossible based on what they're inheriting). Because the dynamics in UK politics are entirely different. For starters the Trump equivalent is Farage but the nitty gritty of that discussion isn’t for this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted Monday at 14:01 VT Supporter Share Posted Monday at 14:01 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted Monday at 14:08 Share Posted Monday at 14:08 If they have a minimum age limit, why not a maximum one? Why is a 'with-it' 30 year old more suitable than an 80 something year old who can't control his bowels? Mad country. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted Monday at 14:18 Share Posted Monday at 14:18 Hopefully American courts make the right decision today. The fact that Trump is asking for immunity shows exactly what sort of person he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nor-Cal Villan Posted Monday at 14:38 Share Posted Monday at 14:38 27 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: If they have a minimum age limit, why not a maximum one? Why is a 'with-it' 30 year old more suitable than an 80 something year old who can't control his bowels? Mad country. 30-year-old still 5 years away from being eligible for POTUS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted Monday at 14:40 VT Supporter Share Posted Monday at 14:40 No immunity for 'unofficial acts'. What constitutes an 'official act' and were any of the charges related to the unofficial ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted Monday at 14:58 Share Posted Monday at 14:58 17 minutes ago, HKP90 said: No immunity for 'unofficial acts'. What constitutes an 'official act' and were any of the charges related to the unofficial ones? So another long drawn out argument about what constitutes official and what does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted Monday at 15:16 Share Posted Monday at 15:16 America is screwed. Trump gets back in and will 'official act' anything he wants. They are going to a very bad place. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colhint Posted Monday at 15:39 Share Posted Monday at 15:39 (edited) Sotomayor just summed it up.. Now the president can send a seal team 6 in to assassinate a political opponent and he can't be touched. Edited Monday at 15:40 by colhint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted Monday at 16:42 Share Posted Monday at 16:42 1 hour ago, Jareth said: America is screwed. Trump gets back in and will 'official act' anything he wants. They are going to a very bad place. Bad day in the history of America. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Townsend Posted Monday at 16:47 Share Posted Monday at 16:47 1 hour ago, Jareth said: America is screwed. Trump gets back in and will 'official act' anything he wants. They are going to a very bad place. Unfortunately not just them If that fascist gets back in 4 years after trying to launch an insurrection the whole world is heading to a dark place and Putin is laughing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted Monday at 16:58 Share Posted Monday at 16:58 1 hour ago, colhint said: Sotomayor just summed it up.. Now the president can send a seal team 6 in to assassinate a political opponent and he can't be touched. Surely Biden isn't going to look a gift horse in the mouth. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nor-Cal Villan Posted Monday at 17:04 Share Posted Monday at 17:04 15 minutes ago, Captain_Townsend said: Unfortunately not just them If that fascist gets back in 4 years after trying to launch an insurrection the whole world is heading to a dark place and Putin is laughing. Putin laughing, spreads his wings, OH LORD YEAH! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted Monday at 18:50 Share Posted Monday at 18:50 4 hours ago, HKP90 said: No immunity for 'unofficial acts'. What constitutes an 'official act' and were any of the charges related to the unofficial ones? Yes that's the key piece. I think the ruling in isolation makes sense, when acting as President in an official capacity you have immunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted Monday at 21:54 Author Share Posted Monday at 21:54 (edited) Based on this ruling, Biden has at least 4 months in which time he can "officially" grassy knoll Trump, and any other MAGA terrorist who he might deem a national security threat. Biden might as well dissolve the GOP and arrest any member who doesn't agree to enter a re-education camp. He could grassy knoll Alito and Thomas and replace them with liberals, and also expand the court, and pack it with liberals. He could start a mandatory gun buyback program and ban all firearms. The Court has just crowned Joe Biden King Joe! Edited Monday at 22:00 by maqroll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted yesterday at 00:53 VT Supporter Share Posted yesterday at 00:53 One of those days of bottomless sadness for America. Need a few days to process and get past the self-pity. Honestly did not see Roberts going this way. Maybe they are trying to save their own skins. Who knows? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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