Mr_Dogg Posted Friday at 08:34 Share Posted Friday at 08:34 30 minutes ago, Genie said: I hate to say it but senile, mad, mental Trump looks to be the more coherent of the 2 at the moment. If I had a vote, I would for Biden in a coma over Trump. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted Friday at 08:45 Share Posted Friday at 08:45 10 minutes ago, Mr_Dogg said: If I had a vote, I would for Biden in a coma over Trump. Absolutely, me too every time. I’m just commenting on the optics of what is going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted Friday at 08:49 Share Posted Friday at 08:49 They have to swap Biden, the guy is a walking corpse. I sort of blame the dems for Trump, they've put up Hilary Clinton and now a dead guy against him. Give it Sanders. or Big Sam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Brumstopdogs Posted Friday at 08:54 Popular Post Share Posted Friday at 08:54 4 minutes ago, Jareth said: They have to swap Biden, the guy is a walking corpse. I sort of blame the dems for Trump, they've put up Hilary Clinton and now a dead guy against him. Give it Sanders. or Big Sam. Desperate times call for desperate measures... 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelVilla Posted Friday at 08:56 Share Posted Friday at 08:56 Watch Biden walk off the stage. I wouldn't vote for any of them. And I **** hate Trump 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted Friday at 09:00 Share Posted Friday at 09:00 53 minutes ago, Genie said: I hate to say it but senile, mad, mental Trump looks to be the more coherent of the 2 at the moment. I knew biden was bad but **** me it was embarrassing at times. Its so sad to see biden be allowed to continue when he clearly is incapable. It was like watching one of my older relatives before they passed away. Trump suprised me how calm he was i was expecting him to be annoying and interrupt biden every time. But whoever was advising him must have said just like biden talk as he will kill himself and thats how it went. I very doubt there will be a second one after this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted Friday at 09:16 Share Posted Friday at 09:16 15 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Trump suprised me how calm he was i was expecting him to be annoying and interrupt biden every time. But whoever was advising him must have said just like biden talk as he will kill himself and thats how it went. I very doubt there will be a second one after this. The Microphones were turned off when the other person was speaking to prevent this ... we should take note of it for future debates over here Its been fairly apparent for a couple of years now that Biden isn't fit for a second term and there would have been no shame in retiring on the grounds of ill health ...I'm not sure they can do much about it now except prepare for a second term of Trump 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrusr Posted Friday at 09:25 VT Supporter Share Posted Friday at 09:25 1 hour ago, villa89 said: Trump was president before and America didn't collapse. He might be worse this time but America will still come out of it okay. There's a limited amount of damage a US president can do, the French president has far more power for example. Its not Trump personally which will be the problem; its who is around him which will be the problem. Jon Oliver covered this the other day which would be very worth a watch if you have Sky/Now TV (don't think it has made it to YouTube yet). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025 So this is a plan set up by the Heritage Foundation (conservative think tank) and basically sets out a blueprint to ensure that all of the administration are going to be conservative led for the foreseeable future and in essence turn America into an Autocracy. There are also suggestions that with the Supreme Court that 3 of the conservative leaning Judges will retire and be replaced by younger versions of themselves, holding the Supreme Court for decades. Yes, the 1st Trump term didn't collapse America, but arguably it was not expected by many so it took time for people to abuse it. Now a 2nd term is real possibility and people are ready. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted Friday at 09:36 Share Posted Friday at 09:36 1 hour ago, villa89 said: Trump was president before and America didn't collapse. He might be worse this time but America will still come out of it okay. There's a limited amount of damage a US president can do, the French president has far more power for example. Whilst you might be right I think this time around he will be far more aggressive, especially with people and institutions which have tried to take him down. It will be very chaotic for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Dogg Posted Friday at 09:51 Share Posted Friday at 09:51 1 hour ago, Jareth said: They have to swap Biden, the guy is a walking corpse. I sort of blame the dems for Trump, they've put up Hilary Clinton and now a dead guy against him. Give it Sanders. or Big Sam. Sanders would be a great president and still seems to be fully clued in. But he is older than Biden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted Friday at 09:51 Share Posted Friday at 09:51 2 hours ago, villa89 said: Trump was president before and America didn't collapse. He might be worse this time but America will still come out of it okay. There's a limited amount of damage a US president can do, the French president has far more power for example. He literally tried to end democracy in the country. And people are prepared to give him another chance to do that. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted Friday at 10:12 Share Posted Friday at 10:12 54 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: The Microphones were turned off when the other person was speaking to prevent this ... we should take note of it for future debates over here Its been fairly apparent for a couple of years now that Biden isn't fit for a second term and there would have been no shame in retiring on the grounds of ill health ...I'm not sure they can do much about it now except prepare for a second term of Trump Yeah noted about the mics but i bet if that was sunak he would still try interupt! Yeah its too late now. Election is in November democrats have shot themselves in the foot but not making the change sooner. Im pretty suee if trump wins biden will be removed asap then newsom will take over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted Friday at 10:19 Share Posted Friday at 10:19 53 minutes ago, cyrusr said: Its not Trump personally which will be the problem; its who is around him which will be the problem. Jon Oliver covered this the other day which would be very worth a watch if you have Sky/Now TV (don't think it has made it to YouTube yet). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025 So this is a plan set up by the Heritage Foundation (conservative think tank) and basically sets out a blueprint to ensure that all of the administration are going to be conservative led for the foreseeable future and in essence turn America into an Autocracy. There are also suggestions that with the Supreme Court that 3 of the conservative leaning Judges will retire and be replaced by younger versions of themselves, holding the Supreme Court for decades. Yes, the 1st Trump term didn't collapse America, but arguably it was not expected by many so it took time for people to abuse it. Now a 2nd term is real possibility and people are ready. I would imagine vivek and scott will be two major players in trumps cabinet if he wins. I do wonder if he will bring a outsider like tucker in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted Friday at 10:25 Share Posted Friday at 10:25 5 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: I would imagine vivek and scott will be two major players in trumps cabinet if he wins. I do wonder if he will bring an outsider like tucker in. The first weeks and months would no doubt be dozens of people being sacked or resigning. The it would be a case of filling the vacancies with people who know how to nod and agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted Friday at 10:50 Share Posted Friday at 10:50 The Dems must know who would poll best against Trump in a head to head. Biden resigns citing some poxy health issue and in steps the best alternative. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted Friday at 11:07 VT Supporter Share Posted Friday at 11:07 If Trump wins, the whole world is f***ed. They'll renege on Nato and Russia will steam into Europe, China will invade Taiwan. They'll renege on Paris accords and Climate Change will ravage the middle Eastern countries and cause massive flooding and forest fires everywhere. America will be like idiocracy, as all semblance of evidence based education is disassembled. Trump is going to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted Friday at 11:20 Share Posted Friday at 11:20 Lucky the debate is far away from November as people's attention spans are so short that the debate would have moved on. Well that is what the democrats would be praying on. Not a chance that Biden will withdraw. US politics seems to be in some of sort of death spiral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted Friday at 11:39 Share Posted Friday at 11:39 The dems supposedly were the side wanting this early debate, what chance it was strategic to give them time if Biden screwed up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted Friday at 11:54 Moderator Share Posted Friday at 11:54 15 minutes ago, Jareth said: The dems supposedly were the side wanting this early debate, what chance it was strategic to give them time if Biden screwed up? I think that's a distinct possibility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted Friday at 11:58 Share Posted Friday at 11:58 48 minutes ago, HKP90 said: If Trump wins, the whole world is f***ed. They'll renege on Nato and Russia will steam into Europe, China will invade Taiwan. They'll renege on Paris accords and Climate Change will ravage the middle Eastern countries and cause massive flooding and forest fires everywhere. America will be like idiocracy, as all semblance of evidence based education is disassembled. Trump is going to win. I think this is ott, honestly. I think it'd be a tragedy in America, stuffing the court with young conservative judges will damage the rights of us citizens for decades, but I'm not convinced we're going to see the collapse of NATO and China on the war path, we didn't last time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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