Genie Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 As a convicted felon, when he leaves the US does he need to apply for permission to return? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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choffer Posted May 31 VT Supporter Share Posted May 31 This speech is madness. How can anyone listen to this unhinged claptrap and think “yep, that’s the guy I want in charge”. America is a strange, strange place. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 2 minutes ago, choffer said: This speech is madness. How can anyone listen to this unhinged claptrap and think “yep, that’s the guy I want in charge”. America is a strange, strange place. I know! How the hell has he become such a cult leader… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post limpid Posted May 31 Administrator Popular Post Share Posted May 31 10 minutes ago, nick76 said: I know! How the hell has he become such a cult leader… 40% of the US population believe in a 6-10,000 year old Earth and 60% that there was a worldwide flood. Once you are convinced such things are true because it "feels right to you", it's pretty easy to use that standard to believe any nonsense. Even contradictory nonsense. The Trumoers were making the case that "even Mother Theresa wouldn't get a fair trial in that court", seemingly unaware that she's probably one of the most evil people who ever lived. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted May 31 VT Supporter Share Posted May 31 32 minutes ago, nick76 said: I know! How the hell has he become such a cult leader… I wish he was just a cult leader. But he's totally mainstream. It's insane. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panto_Villan Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 10 hours ago, Genie said: The embarrassment of selling his empire to pay off his fines is hopefully coming up soon. Then Melania leaving him. Problem is he’s going to make a sickening amount of money from Truth Social in six months (or whenever he can sell his shares). For a while the stock price was dropping and it looked like he’d “only” make a few hundred million - but the price has risen hugely since then, despite the company having basically no revenue. His share is literally worth billions these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nor-Cal Villan Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 11 hours ago, Genie said: Is it too late for him to be deselected as presidential candidate? As far as I know it is not 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nor-Cal Villan Posted May 31 Popular Post Share Posted May 31 (edited) 8 hours ago, colhint said: Surely there has got to be enough people in the bible belt now questioning Trump. Surely you jest if these so-called people of faith didn’t question him after the countless shitty things he has already done, what makes anyone think they would start now? You’ve got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know… morons. Edited May 31 by Nor-Cal Villan 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straggler Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 11 minutes ago, Nor-Cal Villan said: Surely you jest if these so-called people of faith didn’t question him after the countless shitty things he has done, what makes anyone think they would start now? You’ve got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know… morons. I got that reference! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Townsend Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 5 hours ago, nick76 said: I know! How the hell has he become such a cult leader… The same way other Fascists did. Demonise the media. Demonise the opposition. Create scapegoats. Offer simple populist slogans. Tell a cohort out there lies they will lap up. Create an almost semi religious iconography around yourself. The rise of fascism in the mid 2010s is something we haven't adequately challenged. The response has been weak. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nor-Cal Villan Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 32 minutes ago, nick76 said: Speaking of felons. D’Souza is a real piece of work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted June 1 VT Supporter Share Posted June 1 12 hours ago, Nor-Cal Villan said: You’ve got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know… morons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted June 1 Administrator Share Posted June 1 13 hours ago, Nor-Cal Villan said: As far as I know it is not As I understand it, it technically is as he won't be officially nominated until the 18th July. Practically though, no chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 11 hours ago, Captain_Townsend said: The same way other Fascists did. Demonise the media. Demonise the opposition. Create scapegoats. Offer simple populist slogans. Tell a cohort out there lies they will lap up. Create an almost semi religious iconography around yourself. The rise of fascism in the mid 2010s is something we haven't adequately challenged. The response has been weak. You missed off trumps maddest skill...convince the general population, which even that might be a stretch given who actually votes for him, that he's one of them 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted June 1 VT Supporter Share Posted June 1 And convincing them he'll make America great again despite it being a world leader in pretty much everything* And that he's already had 4 years and pretty much nothing changed. * in fact with his insular inward looking policies he'll probably guarantee China overtakes the USA economy. Biden has done an amazing job of onshoring tens of thousands of jobs and hundreds of companies in green technology which IS the future. Trump will likely stop or even reverse that and USA continue to rely on expensive, outdated technologies. Meanwhile the rest of the world and most especially China will push on and establish themselves in new cleaner cheaper industrial bases. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted June 1 Administrator Share Posted June 1 22 minutes ago, sidcow said: And convincing them he'll make America great again despite it being a world leader in pretty much everything* Especially: Incarceration rates Gun deaths Homelessness Child poverty Medical bankruptcy Science illiteracy Fascism During the next term (regardless of president) the Supreme Court will probably make the US leaders in Unwanted pregnancy rates Teen pregnancy rates Illegality of contraception 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted June 1 Administrator Share Posted June 1 3 minutes ago, limpid said: Especially: Incarceration rates Gun deaths Homelessness Child poverty Medical bankruptcy Science illiteracy Fascism During the next term (regardless of president) the Supreme Court will probably make the US leaders in Unwanted pregnancy rates Teen pregnancy rates Illegality of contraception And a democratic system that's somehow less democratic than ours. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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