sne Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Not that it will matter. Quote Trump Pressed Australian Leader to Help Barr Investigate Mueller Inquiry’s Origins The discussion was another instance of the president using American diplomacy for potential personal gain. WASHINGTON — President Trump pushed the Australian prime minister during a recent telephone call to help Attorney General William P. Barr gather information for a Justice Department inquiry that Mr. Trump hopes will discredit the Mueller investigation, according to two American officials with knowledge of the call. The White House restricted access to the call’s transcript to a small group of the president’s aides, one of the officials said, an unusual decision that is similar to the handling of a July call with the Ukrainian president that is at the heart of House Democrats’ impeachment inquiry into Mr. Trump. Like that call, the discussion with Prime Minister Scott Morrison of Australia shows the extent to which Mr. Trump sees the attorney general as a critical partner in his goal to show that the Mueller investigation had corrupt and partisan origins, and the extent that Mr. Trump sees the Justice Department inquiry as a potential way to gain leverage over America’s closest allies. And like the call with the Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelensky, the discussion with Mr. Morrison shows the president using high-level diplomacy to advance his personal political interests. President Trump initiated the discussion in recent weeks with Mr. Morrison explicitly for the purpose of requesting Australia’s help in the Justice Department review of the Russia investigation, according to the two people with knowledge of the discussion. Mr. Barr requested that Mr. Trump speak to Mr. Morrison, one of the people said. It came only weeks after Mr. Trump seemed to make military aid to Ukraine contingent on Mr. Zelensky doing him the “favor” of helping Mr. Barr with his work. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/30/us/politics/trump-australia-barr-mueller.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted October 1, 2019 Author Share Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) Turning point Edited October 1, 2019 by maqroll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrusr Posted October 1, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted October 1, 2019 8 hours ago, maqroll said: Turning point Not convinced yet. If more of these come out, then it will be harder to ignore but that won't stop people. To be fair though, until he has been physically kicked out, I won't believe it will actually happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted October 1, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted October 1, 2019 Nothing will happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Not a headline I necessarily expected to read: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 1, 2019 Moderator Share Posted October 1, 2019 9 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: Not a headline I necessarily expected to read: Agreed, I'd find Creepy Sex Pest, Copyright theft and generally over-rated tossy musician as more credible. Always was a dodgy word removed though. He still owes The Passage money for Drugface 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaphan04 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 here we go..... absolutely insane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 The outcome of impeachment would be to make Mike Pence President, which isn't much of a 'coup' in my book. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 He does seem to be going into meltdown mode. Not that that is particularly far from his usual personality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 10 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: The outcome of impeachment would be to make Mike Pence President, which isn't much of a 'coup' in my book. I don’t think Pence would win a second term so he’d only be president a matter of months. Trump could still win next year though as his base are still motivated for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 2, 2019 Moderator Share Posted October 2, 2019 13 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: The outcome of impeachment would be to make Mike Pence President, which isn't much of a 'coup' in my book. That depends what they dig up on Pence in the meantime, he's up to his neck in some of this too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Trump has fired off 13 angry tweets about his impeachment over the last few hours. He seems pretty rattled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 My fave so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted October 2, 2019 Moderator Share Posted October 2, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Trump now demanding that China investigate Joe and Hunter Biden... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Also reiterated in the press conference that Ukraine should investigate them. He’s unconventional to say the least. I don’t know if that is blatant enough for Republicans to turn on him but if any evidence came to light that the withholding of funds to Ukraine was linked to Trump wanting Biden investigated that would finish him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted October 3, 2019 Author Share Posted October 3, 2019 1 hour ago, sne said: Trump now demanding that China investigate Joe and Hunter Biden... Thus may be strategic, in an attempt to make it appear as though Trump is just unschooled in proper diplomatic protocols to know any better. And why not try, it worked for his son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 3 hours ago, sne said: Trump now demanding that China investigate Joe and Hunter Biden... I can't believe how many absolutely insane scandals he's got through. The crazy son of a bitch is going to see out his entire term, and might even get reelected. What the **** is going on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 (edited) Quote US diplomats told Zelenskiy that Trump visit was dependent on Biden statement Newly-released texts show diplomats made clear that improvement in Kyiv’s relations with Washington was linked to cooperation https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/oct/04/us-diplomats-told-zelenskiy-ukraine-trump-visit-was-dependent-on-biden-statement-text-investigation There is direct evidence now of the White House telling Ukraine they will get something from the US if they investigate Trump’s political opponent. He must be in some real jeopardy with this and I’d say there is a lot more to come out. Edited October 4, 2019 by LondonLax 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 I see zero jeopardy and a second term. Not being argumentative, just his party wont impeach and his supporters dont care. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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