VILLAMARV Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 It's that Zappa quote again, the one about pulling back the curtain to reveal the brick wall at the back of the theatre. It has become too expensive or troublesome (or both) to maintain the illusion. While the flow of information can be regulated the status quo can be upheld. We are undoubtedly fully immersed in the age of information, When industrial sabotage can be done at the press of a key on a keyboard from the other side of the globe. The battle for our hearts and minds is where the fight is. We all pressed 'like' on the Adam Curtis documentaries when they come around. Watch them back. Sometimes it's hard to see the wood for the trees. Trump is a great diversionary tactic, but I don't think those clever, unscrupulous people behind the scenes think they are fooling anyone at this point. I think they know they're coming to the end of an era and are ramping up things and going 'all in'. Someone like Trump fits the bill perfectly for these aims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted September 14, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted September 14, 2018 Last week's Remainiacs podcast had an interesting section on the Trump administration and the WTO. The WTO operates under a small group of judges that work under fixed terms and then get replaced. The Trump White House has effectively blocked the appointment of the appointment of new judges, meaning they are now at the minimum of judges for the organisation to operate, and more are due to leave their posts next year, meaning if more judges do not get appointed, the whole thing will grind to a halt. Why he's doing this, well that's open to interpretation. One of the hosts on the podcast posited that Trump is so myopic in his view of power that he believes the US holding the strongest military means they should be beholden to no-one in any facet and the WTO represents a block on that viewpoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted September 14, 2018 Author Share Posted September 14, 2018 Manafort just pled guilty to Conspiracy against the USA. Junior or Kushner must be next! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 14, 2018 Moderator Share Posted September 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, maqroll said: Manafort just pled guilty to Conspiracy against the USA. Junior or Kushner must be next! I suspect they'll not be allowed to do a deal, they are two of the pots of gold at the end of the rainbow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 1 hour ago, maqroll said: Manafort just pled guilty to Conspiracy against the USA. Junior or Kushner must be next! Will he do jail time is the real question. He should as part of a guilty plea, but he is connected and supposedly surrendering much of the ill-gotten gains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 14, 2018 Moderator Share Posted September 14, 2018 There's always a Trump Tweet for everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straggler Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 All the best people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Thread starting here, discussing possibilities for what the deal with Mueller might involve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted September 14, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted September 14, 2018 Manafort has forfeited an incredible amount of assets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, VILLAMARV said: It's that Zappa quote again, the one about pulling back the curtain to reveal the brick wall at the back of the theatre. It has become too expensive or troublesome (or both) to maintain the illusion. While the flow of information can be regulated the status quo can be upheld. We are undoubtedly fully immersed in the age of information, When industrial sabotage can be done at the press of a key on a keyboard from the other side of the globe. The battle for our hearts and minds is where the fight is. We all pressed 'like' on the Adam Curtis documentaries when they come around. Watch them back. Sometimes it's hard to see the wood for the trees. Trump is a great diversionary tactic, but I don't think those clever, unscrupulous people behind the scenes think they are fooling anyone at this point. I think they know they're coming to the end of an era and are ramping up things and going 'all in'. Someone like Trump fits the bill perfectly for these aims. Can you please clarify this and elaborate on what you are alluding to here please? It would be most appreciated. While I don't think I grasp your post just yet, I have a sound belief in never underestimating people, and that includes an enemy. The battle for our hearts and minds might be where the fight is, but the means to which could easily be through taint and pollution as it could be through integrity and trust. Please excuse me if I have missed the mark entirely with that comment. A favour to ask to finish. If you have the time and interest, can you read my post in the 'corporate evil' thread and again, only if it suits you, do some reading on the Red House Report and tell me what you think? I would be intrigued. Edited September 14, 2018 by A'Villan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Quite astonishing. After a police officer enters a man's apartment, apparently thinking it was her own, and shoots him dead, the police get a search warrant for the dead man's home, find some weed, and leak it to the media as some kind of justification for killing him. The killer's property is not searched. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 50 minutes ago, Chindie said: Manafort has forfeited an incredible amount of assets. Yup... punishment befitting a true evil banker may well be on the cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 lots of long term damage being done right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 45 minutes ago, villakram said: Yup... punishment befitting a true evil banker may well be on the cards. I'm not sure modern day penal codes provide for punishment befitting bankers. That's probably just as well. The Assyrian room in the British Museum, however... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 1 hour ago, peterms said: Thread starting here, discussing possibilities for what the deal with Mueller might involve. From what I can gather , Just to even get a chance of seeing freedom again before he's an old man , Manafort has to tell EVERYTHING about ... Loving season 8's direction . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 55 minutes ago, A'Villan said: While I don't think I grasp your post just yet, I have a sound belief in never underestimating people, and that includes an enemy. 59 minutes ago, A'Villan said: Can you please clarify this and elaborate on what you are alluding to here please? It would be most appreciated. 1 hour ago, A'Villan said: The battle for our hearts and minds might be where the fight is, but the means to which could easily be through taint and pollution as it could be through integrity and trust. Please excuse me if I have missed the mark entirely with that comment. 1 hour ago, A'Villan said: A favour to ask to finish. If you have the time and interest, can you read my post in the 'corporate evil' thread and again, only if it suits you, do some reading on the Red House Report and tell me what you think? I would be intrigued. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 (edited) And the fact that the Investigation has now just turned a huge profit is hilarious. The Trump condo forfeiture was a nice touch. Edited September 14, 2018 by Brumerican Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 35 minutes ago, Brumerican said: The Trump condo forfeiture was a nice touch. And hopefully also symbolic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted September 14, 2018 Author Share Posted September 14, 2018 I'm going to enjoy this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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