TheAuthority Posted November 27, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted November 27, 2017 That is some freaky sh*t. Her twitter feed is brilliant. I think Americans have learned how to use irony in the last 12 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted November 27, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted November 27, 2017 On 11/26/2017 at 11:16, HanoiVillan said: I completely disagree, to be honest. Actually the two stories come from similar types of piece. The first, which was released this week, is a bizarre chin-stroking personal profile of a Nazi (found here) which, over more than 2,200 words devoted to one single individual bell-piece, tells us about his thoughts on humour, what he's cooking for dinner, what his pets are, what he did for his wedding and how he decorates his house. It would be indulgent if it were written about a literary titan, let alone Mr Random Dickhead on Stormfront. The second is also a personal profile (found here) of the young man whose murder started the Ferguson riots. The paper subsequently apologised for the 'no angel' remark, the placement of the story within the paper next to a profile of the killer, and the bizarre equation of rapping with being troubled at the end of the story. Both pieces are 'personal profiles' of people the paper finds interesting in some way. But the tone is very different. There's no 'cause' here, just an observation about how the American media talk about white racists versus how they talk about young black men. For you and @bickster the NYTimes national editor has written a defense of the article. Quote The genesis of the story was the aftermath of the white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Va., in August, the terrifying Ku Klux Klan-like images of young white men carrying tiki torches and shouting “Jews will not replace us,” and the subsequent violence that included the killing of a woman, Heather D. Heyer. Who were those people? We assigned Richard Fausset, one of our smartest thinkers and best writers, to profile one of the far-right foot soldiers at the rally. We ended up settling on Mr. Hovater, who, it turned out, was a few years older than another Ohio man, James Alex Fields Jr., who was charged with murder after the authorities said he drove his car into a crowd of protesters, killing Ms. Heyer. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/26/reader-center/readers-accuse-us-of-normalizing-a-nazi-sympathizer-we-respond.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 14 minutes ago, TheAuthority said: That is some freaky sh*t. Her twitter feed is brilliant. I think Americans have learned how to use irony in the last 12 months. It's a bit Marie Antoinette at Versailles, isn't it? Which would make him Louis XVI...tried for treason...guillotine...hmmmm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 27, 2017 Moderator Share Posted November 27, 2017 11 minutes ago, TheAuthority said: For you and @bickster the NYTimes national editor has written a defense of the article. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/26/reader-center/readers-accuse-us-of-normalizing-a-nazi-sympathizer-we-respond.html Tbf that's exactly how both the article and the excerpt came across The fact that people got annoyed by how normal he came across is good but they should also take that on board, the White Supremacists are no longer hiding under pointy bedsheets. That should worry them far more than this article 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted November 27, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted November 27, 2017 Trump just made a "Pocahontas" crack about Senator Elizabeth Warren to Navajo code talkers in the White House. The video is beyond cringeworthy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 How does he survive so many car-crash comments??? truly astounding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mjmooney Posted November 27, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted November 27, 2017 Meanwhile, Mike Pence bides his time, rubbing his hands like Montgomery Burns... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 27, 2017 Moderator Share Posted November 27, 2017 19 minutes ago, mjmooney said: Meanwhile, Mike Pence bides his time, rubbing his hands like Montgomery Burns... It's possible he might get charged in the Mueller enquiry, he isn't as clean as imagined. He has played some part in the cover-ups I can't see it happening but it is possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 (edited) 29 minutes ago, mjmooney said: Meanwhile, Mike Pence bides his time, rubbing his hands like Montgomery Burns... And meanwhile, meanwhile... (i) The supreme court gets to decide if the police need a warrant to access your phone tracking records. (ii) The senate is about to pass their tax "reform" bill whereupon the bill will pass to a smokey room where deep thought and principled debate will lead to trickle down for all. Rejoice ye peons! All the while, people focus on a WH PR event to mock Melania (so, so similar to the right wing comments from the olden days on Michelle Obama it's scary), oh and what a huge scandal it is that Trump engages in an off the cuff attack on a direct political opponent. Edited November 27, 2017 by villakram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted November 27, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted November 27, 2017 6 minutes ago, villakram said: And meanwhile, meanwhile... (ii) The senate is about to pass their tax "reform" bill whereupon the bill will pass to a smokey room where deep thought and principled debate will lead to trickle down for all. Rejoice ye peons! They are nowhere near getting the votes to pass this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted November 27, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted November 27, 2017 7 minutes ago, villakram said: oh and what a huge scandal it is that Trump engages in an off the cuff attack on a direct political opponent. An interesting reading of the use of a racial slur. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 43 minutes ago, villakram said: And meanwhile, meanwhile... (i) The supreme court gets to decide if the police need a warrant to access your phone tracking records. (ii) The senate is about to pass their tax "reform" bill whereupon the bill will pass to a smokey room where deep thought and principled debate will lead to trickle down for all. Rejoice ye peons! All the while, people focus on a WH PR event to mock Melania (so, so similar to the right wing comments from the olden days on Michelle Obama it's scary), oh and what a huge scandal it is that Trump engages in an off the cuff attack on a direct political opponent. Mocking and laughing at Melania is nowhere near on the same plane as getting mad and/or offended that the President used Dijon mustard on a burger or that he and his wife shared a 'terrorist fist bump' etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 40 minutes ago, TheAuthority said: They are nowhere near getting the votes to pass this. Rand Paul just got on board. They are very very close in the senate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Let's have a photo underneath a picture of part time Sith Lord and Indian Removal Act creator Andrew Jackson. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted November 27, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted November 27, 2017 14 minutes ago, villakram said: Rand Paul just got on board. They are very very close in the senate. There'll probably be some going back and forth but a 2nd Republican Senator (Steve Daines Montana) just came out against the bill in addition to Ron Johnson. That means they are at 50-50 currently giving Pence the tie-break. However 6 other Republican Senators will not commit to the bill including McCain who I'm sure would love to screw Trump over again. Also with all of the reports of this bill blowing up the deficit I don't see how any of the Freedom Caucus can vote for it and then go home and campaign in 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 (edited) 20 minutes ago, TheAuthority said: There'll probably be some going back and forth but a 2nd Republican Senator (Steve Daines Montana) just came out against the bill in addition to Ron Johnson. That means they are at 50-50 currently giving Pence the tie-break. However 6 other Republican Senators will not commit to the bill including McCain who I'm sure would love to screw Trump over again. Also with all of the reports of this bill blowing up the deficit I don't see how any of the Freedom Caucus can vote for it and then go home and campaign in 2018. Look who we've come to be resting our hopes on I don't think we can rely on a single member of congress. Principles < $. btw., there's no real freedom caucus in the senate and the house has already passed it, so what the budget hawks in the house think no longer matters. They'll conference this down the nations throat if the senate passes this. Edited November 27, 2017 by villakram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 A depressing story, as the Washington Post catch a woman giving them a false story about Roy Moore in the transparent hope that they would run it, and then she could discredit them later: A woman approached The Post with dramatic — and false — tale about Roy Moore. She appears to be part of undercover sting operation 'A woman who falsely claimed to The Washington Post that Roy Moore, the Republican U.S. Senate candidate in Alabama, impregnated her as a teenager appears to work with an organization that uses deceptive tactics to secretly record conversations in an effort to embarrass its targets. In a series of interviews over two weeks, the woman shared a dramatic story about an alleged sexual relationship with Moore in 1992 that led to an abortion when she was 15. During the interviews, she repeatedly pressed Post reporters to give their opinions on the effects that her claims could have on Moore’s candidacy if she went public. The Post did not publish an article based on her unsubstantiated account. When Post reporters confronted her with inconsistencies in her story and an Internet posting that raised doubts about her motivations, she insisted that she was not working with any organization that targets journalists. But on Monday morning, Post reporters saw her walking into the New York offices of Project Veritas, an organization that targets the mainstream news media and left-leaning groups. The organization sets up undercover “stings” that involve using false cover stories and covert video recordings meant to expose what the group says is media bias. James O’Keefe, the founder of Project Veritas who was convicted of a misdemeanor in 2010 for using a fake identity to enter a federal building during a previous sting, declined to answer questions about the woman outside the Project Veritas office, a storefront in Mamaroneck, N.Y., on Monday morning shortly after the woman walked inside.' https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/a-woman-approached-the-post-with-dramatic--and-false--tale-about-roy-moore-sje-appears-to-be-part-of-undercover-sting-operation/2017/11/27/0c2e335a-cfb6-11e7-9d3a-bcbe2af58c3a_story.html?utm_term=.33cd082f9381 There's more (much more, including two damning videos) at the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share Posted November 28, 2017 5 hours ago, peterms said: Dark days when Michael Hayden is lauded by liberals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 1 hour ago, HanoiVillan said: But on Monday morning, Post reporters saw her walking into the New York offices of Project Veritas, an organization that targets the mainstream news media and left-leaning groups. The organization sets up undercover “stings” that involve using false cover stories and covert video recordings meant to expose what the group says is media bias. Project Fake Noos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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