Davkaus Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 1 minute ago, Awol said: The warning was to an elitist political class, who in their arrogance characteristically ignored it completely. You reap what you sow. When bigotry is at best tolerated, and possibly even encouraged by the majority, we'll all be reaping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, villakram said: and he never said anything about a complete absolute ban on muslims. Just a ban on them entering the country, my mistake. How moderate of him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, Davkaus said: Just a ban on them entering the country, my mistake. How moderate of him. America has had an explicit policy of bombing Muslims for the past 15 years... but, ya Trump is now all of a sudden this amazing escalation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 There is a Chinese curse that says 'May you live in interesting times'. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted November 9, 2016 Author Share Posted November 9, 2016 14 minutes ago, ThunderPower_14 said: Brexit was supposed to be the warning that moderate people who don't really care needed but a few short months later and here we are You're assuming the average Trump voter knows what brexit is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 7 minutes ago, Davkaus said: When bigotry is at best tolerated, and possibly even encouraged by the majority, we'll all be reaping. It is a fact of society, the attempt to hide it through manipulation of language or wish it out of existence has just met the concrete wall of reality. People across the west are seeing their incomes fall, inequality sky rocket while a narrow elite patronise the crap out of them. Of course Trump isn't the answer but he was the only change candidate. The funny thing will be watching said elite perform mental gymnastics to avoid drawing the correct conclusions from Trump's election. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted November 9, 2016 Author Share Posted November 9, 2016 I wonder now if Sanders could have beat Trump 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted November 9, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted November 9, 2016 Wouldn't have been close. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 4 minutes ago, Awol said: It is a fact of society, the attempt to hide it through manipulation of language or wish it out of existence has just met the concrete wall of reality. People across the west are seeing their incomes fall, inequality sky rocket while a narrow elite patronise the crap out of them. Of course Trump isn't the answer but he was the only change candidate. The funny thing will be watching said elite perform mental gymnastics to avoid drawing the correct conclusions from Trump's election. I see this said a lot, but economic hardship isn't really an excuse to vote for Trump especially when the very people being scapegoated are suffering more than you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 (edited) Sanders would have romped this and it is why I'm so happy about this result. The option was clearly there, but the elite decided on Clinton and worked to squish the left option with true popular support. Karma. Edited November 9, 2016 by villakram 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 'They've only gone and done it' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Any competent opponent would have beat Trump, but instead America got Clinton. Will be an interesting 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TrentVilla Posted November 9, 2016 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2016 This is genuinely scary. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted November 9, 2016 Moderator Share Posted November 9, 2016 43 minutes ago, villakram said: America has had an explicit policy of bombing Muslims for the past 15 years... but, ya Trump is now all of a sudden this amazing escalation. I think you might see exactly that in terms of America's bombing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V01 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Bye bye Obamacare. Republicans have the Senate and House Majority with Trump looking like a matter of time until he's confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 The world is heading towards a very bad place. The hatred is rising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 51 minutes ago, villakram said: America has had an explicit policy of bombing Muslims for the past 15 years... but, ya Trump is now all of a sudden this amazing escalation. I mean, banning people of a particular religion from entering the country clearly would be an escalation, but it's worth saying that Trump has fudged on this policy when questioned in recent times. His more recent formulation was something like 'extreme vetting' rather than an outright ban, though (of course) he didn't have any actual details for what that might involve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il_serpente Posted November 9, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted November 9, 2016 I predict a major drubbing for Republicans in the 2018 midterms after many Americans have discovered that Trump wasn't the droid they were looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Remember when the idea of Donald Trump and Boris Johnson both in positions of power was merely a form of satire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 (edited) 7 minutes ago, V01 said: Bye bye Obamacare. Republicans have the Senate and House Majority with Trump looking like a matter of time until he's confirmed. Obamacare is small fry (yup, 22m w/o healthcare assuming if it's not replaced). Control of the supreme court for the next generation is the real prize. American society can now be fundamentally shaped. Edited November 9, 2016 by villakram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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