Villaphan04 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 29 minutes ago, Mantis said: Ted Cruz now backing Trump. I've never liked Cruz and he's too extreme for me but I gained some respect for him for the way that he took a stand against Trump. Now he's going back on that for what he sees as personal gain. It's pretty pathetic to watch. People like him, Rubio, Christie etc have absolutely no self-respect. i feel the same way about Kasich. he was recently talking at the White House, trying to pitch that both republicans and democrats should work together, like they should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Villaphan04 said: i feel the same way about Kasich. he was recently talking at the White House, trying to pitch that both republicans and democrats should work together, like they should. I like Kasich. Was apparently offered the VP slot with unprecedented control over foreign policy but turned it down. Funny really when you've got dickheads like Chris Christie prostrating themselves before Trump in the hopes of getting something and then getting **** all. Edited September 23, 2016 by Mantis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 13 hours ago, Mantis said: Ted Cruz now backing Trump. I've never liked Cruz and he's too extreme for me but I gained some respect for him for the way that he took a stand against Trump. Now he's going back on that for what he sees as personal gain. It's pretty pathetic to watch. People like him, Rubio, Christie etc have absolutely no self-respect. That Ted Cruz is an embarrassing sell-out who has reverse ferreted on his one moment of true conviction shouldn't come as a surprise, but as a measure of the man it's undoubtedly damning. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted September 25, 2016 Author Share Posted September 25, 2016 On September 23, 2016 at 18:26, Mantis said: Ted Cruz now backing Trump. I've never liked Cruz and he's too extreme for me but I gained some respect for him for the way that he took a stand against Trump. Now he's going back on that for what he sees as personal gain. It's pretty pathetic to watch. People like him, Rubio, Christie etc have absolutely no self-respect. The republican presidential primary and is aftermath is one of the most embarrassing spectacles i've ever witnessed in American politics. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted September 25, 2016 Author Share Posted September 25, 2016 18 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: That Ted Cruz is an embarrassing sell-out who has reverse ferreted on his one moment of true conviction shouldn't come as a surprise, but as a measure of the man it's undoubtedly damning. yep, he placed all his chips on that brave stance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 1 hour ago, maqroll said: The republican presidential primary and is aftermath is one of the most embarrassing spectacles i've ever witnessed in American politics. Indeed. It's a hijacking and many Republicans have just let it happen without a fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted September 25, 2016 Moderator Share Posted September 25, 2016 \ (From the facebook page of US Senator Bernie Sanders.) Now, given that the Koch's have invested more than anyone else in this election do you think that we might have entered an age where winning an election can be purely about personal gain - that the actual governing of the country is a secondary concern? After the introduction of PAC's, it's become possible to buy enough media influence to successfully get just about any mop haired idiot voted into the Whitehouse - the KOCH's have spent over $900m (split between both candidates) - it's not hard to see why is it? The US is nuts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted September 25, 2016 Author Share Posted September 25, 2016 yep, the idea that we are a democracy is a complete joke. between super delegates, the electoral college, and pac bribery, the system is rotted to the core. not to mention the quasi-police state we are devolving into as the rich get richer and everyone else lives hand to mouth. something has to give eventually, and it won't be pretty. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted September 26, 2016 Author Share Posted September 26, 2016 (edited) A breathless Samantha Power lays it on thick. LOL the guy in the tie and glasses at the very start Edited September 26, 2016 by maqroll 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted September 26, 2016 Moderator Share Posted September 26, 2016 7 hours ago, maqroll said: yep, the idea that we are a democracy is a complete joke. between super delegates, the electoral college, and pac bribery, the system is rotted to the core. not to mention the quasi-police state we are devolving into as the rich get richer and everyone else lives hand to mouth. something has to give eventually, and it won't be pretty. The natural outcome of neoliberalism is states like Brazil and South Africa - Gated estates of luxury for very few and guns, crime, and poverty for the rest of us. The US looks and behaves like a country making that transition. Also, I don't know how Samantha Power keeps a straight face. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 With more shootings at home and chlorine gas being used on civilians abroad I think tonight what questions are asked might be more important than the pre prepared guff that follows, should be a measuring stick for where the us is right now, if they ignore those questions and focus on how much tax people who earn over $5m a year pay, who's going to build the wall and how to keep those pesky Muslims out then it's a joke gun control, the police shootings, Syria and Russia should be front and centre tonight, I think they'll skirt round it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 12 minutes ago, villa4europe said: With more shootings at home and chlorine gas being used on civilians abroad I think tonight what questions are asked might be more important than the pre prepared guff that follows, should be a measuring stick for where the us is right now, if they ignore those questions and focus on how much tax people who earn over $5m a year pay, who's going to build the wall and how to keep those pesky Muslims out then it's a joke gun control, the police shootings, Syria and Russia should be front and centre tonight, I think they'll skirt round it The topics are 'America' Direction', 'Achieving Prosperity' and 'Securing America', for whatever that's worth. The media have already lined up Trump as the winner by saying he'll be better than low expectations, ie if his trousers don't fall down he wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted September 27, 2016 Author Share Posted September 27, 2016 2 hours ago, villa4europe said: gun control, the police shootings, Syria and Russia should be front and centre tonight, I think they'll skirt round it I honestly have no idea what to expect. Trump could very well walk off the stage if he gets aggravated enough. This should be fascinating. Anyone staying up late to watch this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted September 27, 2016 Author Share Posted September 27, 2016 Don King is in the audience, seems fitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaphan04 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 How the **** are these 2 candidates the ones we(America) decided upon. To me, both were exposed tonight 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted September 27, 2016 Author Share Posted September 27, 2016 49 minutes ago, Villaphan04 said: How the **** are these 2 candidates the ones we(America) decided upon. To me, both were exposed tonight As much as I despise Clinton, she mopped the floor with him, with a lot of help from him. The guy is a train wreck, and if anyone changed minds tonight, it wasn't him. Total farce either way, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 watching the clips, Trump is such a **** word removed. I mean honestly. It's so cringeworthy watching the retard interrupt with asinine brain dead horse shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 (edited) It amazes me that his supporters don't mind that he's demonstrably a repeated liar. He denied ever saying that climate change is a hoax. He's said it several times, tweeted it several times, he's on video saying it on TV! He even denied saying he'd claimed that avoiding taxes made him smart...A thing that 10s of millions of people witnessed him saying live on television an hour before. I give it 6 months before he starts telling people that he never ran to be president. Edited September 27, 2016 by Davkaus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 When he loses this will all be an elaborate hoax done to demonstrate how broken the US political system is and how someone with a lot of money and brash populist politics and a knowledge of social media rather than actual politics and a knowledge of diplomacy can almost become president There's only one man who can fix it...vote trump 2020... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Trump reminds me of a child. Clinton has policy depth in a lot of areas but with Trump it's just simply "we have to do this". That's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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