mjmooney Posted April 6, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted April 6, 2016 You don't need to be a nutjob conspiracy theorist to know that when it comes to the 'real' running of America there are some very sinister people who have more real power than the elected 'leader'. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted April 6, 2016 Author Share Posted April 6, 2016 Wall St. and the Military Industrial Complex love Trump, Cruz and Hillary. They are scared of Sanders. Which makes him a target. And the political climate here is so charged right now some sort of cataclysmic violence seems inevitable, either in Cleveland or against Sanders on the campaign trail. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post maqroll Posted April 6, 2016 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2016 I just donated money to Sanders, first time I've given money to a politician. The next two weeks are going to be great theater leading up to New York... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted April 6, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted April 6, 2016 Good man, Mike. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted April 6, 2016 Author Share Posted April 6, 2016 Clinton is the embodiment of hypocrisy and sleaze. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Shaw_nuff Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 2 hours ago, maqroll said: I just donated money to Sanders, first time I've given money to a politician. The next two weeks are going to be great theater leading up to New York... At the very least with Sanders, you know it won't end up in Panama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted April 6, 2016 Author Share Posted April 6, 2016 Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ermie123 Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Trump all the way for me!!!!! Says it like it is!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted April 6, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted April 6, 2016 Snigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted April 6, 2016 Author Share Posted April 6, 2016 4 minutes ago, ermie123 said: Trump all the way for me!!!!! Says it like it is!!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted April 6, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted April 6, 2016 Has Trump managed to piss off the Jewish community yet? It might be one of the few he's not ticked off the bigotry bingo card yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 (edited) 6 hours ago, mjmooney said: You don't need to be a nutjob conspiracy theorist to know that when it comes to the 'real' running of America there are some very sinister people who have more real power than the elected 'leader'. Nobody's disputing that there are obviously very powerful people besides the President who wield power much less publicly but it does tend to get massively exaggerated. This is a prime example. 5 hours ago, maqroll said: Wall St. and the Military Industrial Complex love Trump, Cruz and Hillary. They are scared of Sanders. Which makes him a target. And the political climate here is so charged right now some sort of cataclysmic violence seems inevitable, either in Cleveland or against Sanders on the campaign trail. See above. It's all a bit far-fetched. It's not so much this idea of "powerful shadowy people" I dispute (although again I think it's exaggerated) just this notion that they form one shadowy group. 1 hour ago, Chindie said: Has Trump managed to piss off the Jewish community yet? It might be one of the few he's not ticked off the bigotry bingo card yet. Surprised he hasn't gone after them anyway as a large majority of Jews vote Democrat IIRC. Edited April 7, 2016 by Mantis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted April 7, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted April 7, 2016 (edited) He apparently has Jewish relatives which may explain things. Although I genuinely believe if someone told him it'd get votes he'd say he advocated relocating Auschwitz to Manhattan, so that's probably not saying much. Edited April 7, 2016 by Chindie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted April 7, 2016 Author Share Posted April 7, 2016 (edited) There is a certain angle that Chindie comes at things from, and it's always wonderfully dry. I think today should be Chindie Appreciation Day. Edited April 7, 2016 by maqroll 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted April 7, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted April 7, 2016 3 hours ago, Chindie said: Has Trump managed to piss off the Jewish community yet? It might be one of the few he's not ticked off the bigotry bingo card yet. I lol'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Rumors have Ryan demonstrating a functioning brain and ruling himself out of running later today. Cruz vs Trump (rusty spoon vs knife), and some people actually think Cruz would be the better choice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted April 12, 2016 Author Share Posted April 12, 2016 National polls have both democrats beating both republicans in the general. The only hope the GOP has is if a third candidate is nominated at the convention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, villakram said: Rumors have Ryan demonstrating a functioning brain and ruling himself out of running later today. Cruz vs Trump (rusty spoon vs knife), and some people actually think Cruz would be the better choice... As detestable as many of his views are (and I say this as somebody on the right), he's not quite as toxic as Trump. Certainly he's got a better chance against Clinton than Trump has because Trump's unfavourables are absolutely ridiculous. Against anyone else Cruz would be the worst candidate - Trump's one of the few where he's the lesser evil. Edited April 12, 2016 by Mantis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted April 12, 2016 Author Share Posted April 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, Mantis said: As detestable as many of his views are (and I say this as somebody on the right), he's not quite as toxic as Trump. Certainly he's got a better chance against Clinton than Trump has because Trump's unfavourables are absolutely ridiculous. Against anyone else Cruz would be the worst candidate - Trump's one of the few where he's the lesser evil. I actually disagree. As vile and unhinged and ugly as the whole Trump thing has been, if he's elected president, he'll just be an embarrassing oaf and a rubber-stamping status quo president. Trump is in reality more establishment than Cruz, who is a religious NUTJOB and a real dangerous guy to have running things. Trump is a long time member of the Atlantic seaboard money class, and in republican terms, that ultimately translates into economic conservatism, and relatively liberal social philosophies. Cruz wouldn't surprise me if he decided that America is a Christian Theocracy, and that Muslims need to be sent to camps and that The Rapture should be the ultimate goal. I'd take Trump and all his idiotic bluster over Cruz every time. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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