The_Lions_Roar Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Radio wm tried to claim he was pointing to the premier league badge on his sleeve, shocking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Anelka has yet to apologise for the salute and even went as far as posting a picture of Obama 'dusting the shoulder' to imply it was the same thing. Something about footballers and intelligence. Hope he gets a lengthy ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I noticed west brom have turned down pepe Mel as being there new manager because he had the audacious request of wanting his own assistant and fitness coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Anelka has yet to apologise for the salute and even went as far as posting a picture of Obama 'dusting the shoulder' to imply it was the same thing. Something about footballers and intelligence. Hope he gets a lengthy ban. I'm not yet sure what the gesture actually means. Some people say it is a general 'up yours' to the government. Others have said it has links to anti Semitic Nazi salutes. I think more clarification is required before bans are discussed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 It's been written about at length in the broadsheets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 (edited) It's been written about at length in the broadsheets. Yes, i have read a lot about it in the papers today and am still none the wiser. They don't seem to know definitively what it actually means either, it seems to mean different things to different people. Edited December 30, 2013 by LondonLax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Here's somebody performing the quenelle at Auschwitz. Outside a Holocaust museum in Marseilles. The symbol is overtly anti-Semitic. Lots more examples: k00ls.overblog.com/2013/12/pour-ceux-qui-prétendent-que-la-quenelle-n-est-pas-un-geste-antisémite.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Yeah, the symbol definitely has anti-Semitic connotations and the guy who invented it is a blatant racist. I find it hard to believe that Anelka wasn't aware of these connotations before he did the gesture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 What a pathetic statement from wba released today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 What a pathetic statement from wba released today Their first statement was equally bad. They've handled this appallingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Yeah, the symbol definitely has anti-Semitic connotations and the guy who invented it is a blatant racist. I find it hard to believe that Anelka wasn't aware of these connotations before he did the gesture. Well I'd wager not many people on here had ever heard of it or what it might mean before Anelka's 'tribute'. I would like to know what Anelka was thinking before stringing him up. Perhaps he just thought it was anti establishment and would now be completely embarrassed to be associated with anti-Semitic groups? It's not like it's a well known or historic fascist gesture, though clearly some people are now trying to use it in that way in those photos above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 The gesture isn't well-known in this country but Anelka clearly knew a lot more about it than the average Brit. I just find it hard to believe that he only saw it as an anti-establishment gesture when it's been widely associated with anti-Semitism and the guy who invented it is an open racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 The gesture isn't well-known in this country but Anelka clearly knew a lot more about it than the average Brit. I just find it hard to believe that he only saw it as an anti-establishment gesture when it's been widely associated with anti-Semitism and the guy who invented it is an open racist. Well Nasri did it as well a few months ago and I don't remember any outrage, it seems like it is not so clear cut that it means hating Jewish people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Montpellier defender also did it and I believe no action was taken against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 The gesture isn't well-known in this country but Anelka clearly knew a lot more about it than the average Brit. I just find it hard to believe that he only saw it as an anti-establishment gesture when it's been widely associated with anti-Semitism and the guy who invented it is an open racist. Well Nasri did it as well a few months ago and I don't remember any outrage, it seems like it is not so clear cut that it means hating Jewish people. Probably because it wasn't done in the middle of a televised Premier League game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Is that a genuine photo, it just looks like his head has been photoshopped! Nasri just needs a slap for being Nasri. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnie Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 If anelka doesnt get a serious ban and I mean alot more then 5 games, then it is truly outrageous. Ive never seen it before but the fact their are loads of pictures online of guys doing it outside jewish memorials and places of jewish worship means it is meant to be offensive. Funny how we have heard nothing from the usual suspects like Jason Roberts, oliver holt, the Black society of lawyers guys, etc. Total double standards. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 From the outside looking in, I had never heard of this quenuell(sp?) gesture, having read the reports from the incident involving anelka it links to lots of stories involing the man who invented it, a comedian who has been fined, threatened with imprisonments and a noted racist, facist and anti Semite, to suggest that anyone, let alone Anelka who is a personal friend of the creator of this salute doesnt know what it stands for seems to be a stretch of imagination. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Well the creator of the salute says it is not meant to be anti-Semitic but the guy does seem to have some questionable views from what I have read of him. I don't know that Anelka should be guilty by association though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffy Biro Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Here's somebody performing the quenelle at Auschwitz. Outside a Holocaust museum in Marseilles. The symbol is overtly anti-Semitic. Lots more examples: k00ls.overblog.com/2013/12/pour-ceux-qui-prétendent-que-la-quenelle-n-est-pas-un-geste-antisémite.html The gesture is yes but lets not compare doing it as gesture for a friend (however unbelievably stupid that may be) to doing it at jewish sites like that. All this whole thing is for me is stupidity unless he genuinely is just an anti semitic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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