Robbie09 Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 The Dempsey bid was made after we bought Benteke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 The Dempsey bid was made after we bought Benteke no it wasnt it was made to put pressure on genk to let us talk to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praisedmambo Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 you were doing so well until I came to the last paragraph! Much to agree with I don't know how serious I was being about Houllier - it's just the thought we had Sissoko lined up, and the left back they bought, and Cabaye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Emergency meeting is needed on Monday. Lerner needs to give Lambert £20m (can be partially off-set by a £10m sale of Bent in the summer). For a bit of a mix of Premiership experience and quality we have to go for players like... Dann & Olsson - £10m Ince - £7m Trotter - £3m Thing is now every other club will know we are desperate so will rinse us, as they should, and we won't sign anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Houllier had a vision and style of play that needed time and had the contacts to get us exciting players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Houllier had a vision and style of play that needed time and had the contacts to get us exciting players. worst thing that happened to us in recent times was houllier's ticker **** up again. not mcleish, not lerner. but that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloBarnesi Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Houllier had a vision and style of play that needed time and had the contacts to get us exciting players. Makoun? Seems strange that results picked up the minute he was on gardening leave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 What kind / level of players do you think we could attract? I think we probably kan attract top/very good players from most of the bigger leagues in Europe (including spain, Italy and even germany), maybe not from clubs challenging for CL, but not far from that. Remember that the average PL team pay a lot higher wages than teams in other leagues. I think our wage problem and our ability to have a competitive team will not be that hard IF we mix foreign players with Brittish. Our main problem now is that everone knows we are desperate to offload a couple of players and replace them, so we will get less money (may even have to pay part of future wages) players leaving and paying higher transfer fees for player coming in. Finally I think we can attract good players but beeing in the position we are will make it more expensive. And to get this club running with a profit means we have to spend now to increase revenue/profit later. Bad decisions have been made that we suffer from now and will do for a while, but that is all sunk costs. Its hard to give examples of specific players so I might not have answered your question but I tryed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 (edited) you were doing so well until I came to the last paragraph! Much to agree with I just don't get it Richard. Houllier was far far better than Lambert yet the support that the two managers have received from you could not have been different. worst thing that happened to us in recent times was houllier's ticker **** up again. not mcleish, not lerner. but that I agree. I don't think we'd have been challenging for the top 4 or anything but we would've had stability and I think he would have left us with some very good players. Makoun? Seems strange that results picked up the minute he was on gardening leave Results were picking up before then. Edited January 26, 2013 by Mantis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 We're all different mantis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Makoun? Seems strange that results picked up the minute he was on gardening leave coincidence, convenience or culmination of his work? sure why didn't we go get mcallister as our full time manager given how great he did when he took over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 We're all different mantis Meaning? Is this all because you met the man once? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Meaning we're all different and have different opinions. I met houllier as well by the way. Actually watched a match with him ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Houllier had better players at his disposal and we were dire. Admittedly the wind had changed and, in retrospect, we were looking like a club on the wane after a few seasons of unsustainable spending (on wages, mostly). Perhaps he could have done more if he had time, but he didn't. It happened and a **** of errors followed and we are where we are - ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Houllier had a vision and style of play that needed time and had the contacts to get us exciting players. He just couldn't cut it in the dressing room or on the touch line. You could tell that he just wasn't up for it. He still had O'Neill's squad minus Milner plus about £30m to spend in January and had us in a relegation battle, which I think is worse than McLeish and Lambert achieved. I was very supportive of his appointment but in hindsight wish it was just as a director of football with a young and hungry first-team coach. It was a missed opportunity for the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Houllier didn't do a great job with us by any stretch but we did pick up towards the end and in comparison to Lambert and McLeish he did a fantastic job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limvillian Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Houllier didn't do a great job with us by any stretch but we did pick up towards the end and in comparison to Lambert and McLeish he did a fantastic job. I thought things started to well after he cried off sick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 I thought things started to well after he cried off sick? No. We picked up before then. What do you mean, cried off sick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praisedmambo Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 (edited) Houllier didn't do a great job with us by any stretch but we did pick up towards the end and in comparison to Lambert and McLeish he did a fantastic job. Unfair comparison. Lambert's been here for a lot less time and didn't inherit the squad Houllier did. But the squad? Losing Milner and never replacing him was the beginning of the demise. MON relied on about 14 players. After he left and Milner was gone and we got injuries to Petrov NRC, and suddenly we had Hogg and Bannan as our central midfield. The problems that we have now were exposed then, in my opinion. Edited January 26, 2013 by praisedmambo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayEm Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 400 pages and 0 signings. Interesting that we did enquire about Coutinho at the start of Jan, suggests that Lambert did want to buy from the start. Still 6 days left... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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