villa89 Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 23 hours ago, VillaAlex said: The issue for them is everyone knows they need the money so they'll be vulnerable to panic sales at discount prices and in the end will probably still way short of what they need. Not a position you want to be in. Everton are in the same position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted May 29 VT Supporter Share Posted May 29 1 hour ago, Rds1983 said: You can walk across the city centre in less than half an hour. It's boosted by having little towns very close to it (Headingley, Horsforth, Chapel Allerton) but the City isn't actually that big. The city centre is more compact than Manchester's (much like Brum), but calling Headingley, Horsforth & Chapel Allerton local towns is a nonsense. They are Leeds suburbs, no more 'towns' than Erdington or Small Heath. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethRDR Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 23 hours ago, sne said: They got these guys out on loan, imagine all will be sold. That'll bring in some money but obviously only a fraction of what they need. Luis Sinisterra Left Winger 25 €17.00m Bournemouth Premier League End of loan Jun 30, 2024 Maximilian Wöber Centre-Back 26 €14.00m Bor. M'gladbach Bundesliga End of loan Jun 30, 2024 Brenden Aaronson Attacking Midfield 23 €14.00m Union Berlin Bundesliga End of loan Jun 30, 2024 Marc Roca Defensive Midfield 27 €10.00m Real Betis LaLiga End of loan Jun 30, 2024 Rasmus Kristensen Right-Back 26 €10.00m AS Roma Serie A End of loan Jun 30, 2024 Diego Llorente Centre-Back 30 €8.00m AS Roma Serie A End of loan Jun 30, 2024 https://www.transfermarkt.com/leeds-united/transfers/verein/399/plus/1?saison_id=2024&pos=&detailpos=&w_s= 'Gladbach have been saying for a while that unless Leeds shift on their asking price for Wöber, he'll be going back. Maybe they will now they'll be desperate, but it'd presumably need to be quite a drop as it's not like Wöber's been pulling up trees, in fact he's been an ever-present in the worst 'Gladbach defence in well over a decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted May 29 VT Supporter Share Posted May 29 2 hours ago, mjmooney said: The city centre is more compact than Manchester's (much like Brum), but calling Headingley, Horsforth & Chapel Allerton local towns is a nonsense. They are Leeds suburbs, no more 'towns' than Erdington or Small Heath. Headingley and Chapel Allerton are part of Leeds, but feel very separate and independent from the city centre. Horsforth is a separate town and civil parish of Leeds. Either way, Leeds is not a bigger city than Manchester and thinking that it is would be a nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czarnikjak Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 On 28/05/2024 at 10:16, LondonLax said: I don’t really feel glee about seeing rival teams in financial trouble. Don’t get me wrong, I love seeing them lose on the pitch, but I think it sucks how much the financial side almost overshadows the actual football discussion in modern football. Who says they are in financial trouble? Yes, they will need to sell few players as all relegated clubs do, but they are not in any danger. They have reputable owners and lots of young players that other teams would pick up for decent fees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 7 hours ago, Rds1983 said: I've lived in both Leeds and Manchester and the idea of Leeds being the third biggest city in the country is wrong. They've done a Greater Manchester to increase population stats by having areas 10 miles away (like Skipton/Ilkley etc) get included. You can walk across the city centre in less than half an hour. It's boosted by having little towns very close to it (Headingley, Horsforth, Chapel Allerton) but the City isn't actually that big. It also struggles as Leeds also has very good rugby league, and cricket close by and Bradford is only 5 miles away. Their catchment area is huge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted May 29 VT Supporter Share Posted May 29 2 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: Their catchment area is huge Smaller than Villa's or Newcastle's I'd reckon. Leeds Rhino's take a lot of their fan's as they're one of the biggest rugby league clubs in the world. A fair amount of the local population are either students or young professionals and not from the area. They've got Bradford City only 5 miles away. Then about 15 to 20 miles away is Burnley, Halifax, Huddersfield and Wakefield. There's not really anything to the north of them except small towns and moorland. They're not a small club but aren't really a huge one either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted May 29 VT Supporter Share Posted May 29 25 minutes ago, Rds1983 said: Leeds Rhino's take a lot of their fan's as they're one of the biggest rugby league clubs in the world. Not competition since they moved Rugby League from winter to summer. Most locals support both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted May 29 VT Supporter Share Posted May 29 26 minutes ago, mjmooney said: Not competition since they moved Rugby League from winter to summer. Most locals support both. True, but they seemed to only be vocal about supporting the football club from about 2018 onwards. For year's and year's after I moved there in 04, I hardly ever met a Leeds United fan but couldn't stop running into Rhino's fans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 9 hours ago, Czarnikjak said: Who says they are in financial trouble? Yes, they will need to sell few players as all relegated clubs do, but they are not in any danger. They have reputable owners and lots of young players that other teams would pick up for decent fees. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czarnikjak Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: Ok, they have debts like most businesses. It doesn’t mean they are in financial trouble. There’s no indication they will be unable to pay them off. Their owners can inject some cash and/or they can sell some players. We owe other clubs £114m in transfer fee instalments ny the way, using this logic we are also in “financial trouble” Edited May 29 by Czarnikjak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 10 hours ago, Rds1983 said: Headingley and Chapel Allerton are part of Leeds, but feel very separate and independent from the city centre. Horsforth is a separate town and civil parish of Leeds. Either way, Leeds is not a bigger city than Manchester and thinking that it is would be a nonsense. Headingley is pretty identical to Selly Oak in distance from city centre and population profile given it's a student area. That obviously gets included in Birmingham's radius. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 39 minutes ago, Czarnikjak said: Ok, they have debts like most businesses. It doesn’t mean they are in financial trouble. There’s no indication they will be unable to pay them off. Their owners can inject some cash and/or they can sell some players. We owe other clubs £114m in transfer fee instalments ny the way, using this logic we are also in “financial trouble” Apart from the fact that we’re in the Premier League and Champions League. Leeds’ failure to secure promotion is one of the main reasons why they are likely have to sell quite a few first teamers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 Regardless of their financial postion, they're going to lose some of their better players for the simple fact that those players won't want to hang around in the Championship any longer if they can get moves. They did well to hang on to the likes of Meslier, Rutter, Summerville, James and Gnonto for one season as a second tier team, but they aren't going to want to stay in the Championsip forever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czarnikjak Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 (edited) 7 hours ago, jacketspuds said: Apart from the fact that we’re in the Premier League and Champions League. Leeds’ failure to secure promotion is one of the main reasons why they are likely have to sell quite a few first teamers. I'm not disputing the fact that they will most likely sell some valuable players. All teams in lower leagues do that. But there is no indication that they are in financial trouble/facing administration/about to go bust. Edited May 30 by Czarnikjak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 8 hours ago, Czarnikjak said: Ok, they have debts like most businesses. It doesn’t mean they are in financial trouble. There’s no indication they will be unable to pay them off. Their owners can inject some cash and/or they can sell some players. We owe other clubs £114m in transfer fee instalments ny the way, using this logic we are also in “financial trouble” Their owners can't just inject some cash. That's the whole point of PSR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 Big word they've got a major sponsorship deal with Red Bull lined up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czarnikjak Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 11 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: Their owners can't just inject some cash. That's the whole point of PSR Yes they can. Our owners have been injecting £100m every season since they took over. PSR looks at profit/loss account not cash flows. If they wanted to they could inject £93m tomorrow to pay off that debt, and if necessary work through the summer to reduce amortisation/wages to cut their expenditure to match new lower levels of revenue to stay complaints with PSR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 (edited) 4 hours ago, useless said: Big word they've got a major sponsorship deal with Red Bull lined up Confirmed that Red Bull are now part-owners of Leeds. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cx88w2nneego Quote Leeds United have announced that Red Bull has taken a minority ownership stake in the club, as well as taking over as their front-of-shirt sponsor. Leeds have been owned by 49ers Enterprises - the investment arm of NFL franchise the San Francisco 49ers - since last summer, when they completed a £170m takeover deal. Actors Russell Crowe and Will Ferrell both own stakes in the club while their shareholders include a number of US sports stars, including golfers Jordan Spieth and Justin Thomas. Edited May 30 by ender4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 Red Bull in football 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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