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Popular Post His Name Is Death Posted January 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Rugeley Villa said: Leeds are a proper club, great fans too. Third biggest City in the uk by population with them being the only club within the city . Yorkshire being the biggest county also, with them being easily the biggest club in it. They also have a very healthy nationwide fanbase with fans scattered all over due to their 60s/70s golden period. Massive catchment area for them to gather fans from, more so than us who have more to compete with. Neither clubs see each other as proper rivals but there’s certainly a bit of needle nowadays than there was before. I’m all for Leeds staying in the premier league where they should be. Always viewed them as a bigger club than Newcastle. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 33 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: Their support was decent first half , although nothing special. Second half they were more quiet as we got louder. I’m never overly impressed with the noise they make when they come to villa. There’s always better usually. They are a big club but they need bigger investment and a big name manager to help push them along a bit like we have. They really aren’t, it’s another case of one club city. They have spent longer outside the top flight than in it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Just a bigger version of Derby County. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 I think the problem Marsch has is that his over-optimistic (American) and positive outlook will wear thin on a cynical (British) fanbase, if results are not good, which they aren’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rino8 Posted January 14, 2023 Visiting Supporter Share Posted January 14, 2023 13 hours ago, villa4europe said: I thought they were alright, just something not clicking and missing He's a clearing in the woods though ain't he, animated at everything for almost no reason Interesting that the general take away on here is that 'were just not quite good enough' We give away two very sloppy goals from mistakes, as we do every game but if we don't make those we've created enough chances to score 4 away. Issue is always that these things seem like anomalies but they happen every game. Why we've committed so many people forward to a corner in the 3rd minute I'll never know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 12 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: Team of hard workers with no spark (apart from Gnonto). They just desperately need some more creativity (and for Bamford to get fit, I hate to say it but it's true). I thought we struggled to track Aaronson at times with him floating off the front players. Not sure what @Rino8 thinks of his impact so far. Perhaps one who'll really click into productivity next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 1 hour ago, The_Steve said: He's trying to put a positive spin on a frustrating loss. Better than throwing his players under the bus Gerrard style. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Mr_Dogg said: I think they'll be in a relegation battle unless they start keeping clean sheets, you can't outscore a bad defence. But there's surely 3 worse teams. They kept a clean sheet all of two games back at Newcastle. Only conceded once at Anfield in their last away win. Southampton, Everton and Bournemouth all have poorer defensive structures imo. Even up to a few games ago a team like Brentford were shipping plenty away from home. I don't know it's an easy line to throw at them. The first goal was embarrasing in way they were caught but it still contained a brilliant pass from Young, then Kamara showed brilliant awareness and then a really good shot from Bailey so we still had huge work. Second goal any team in the league can concede, keeper parries a shot and someone in six yard box taps in. For an hour we created very little. Think they're a bit like Everton. Without their CF most break down too much when in final third unless they're in all out attack mode. If Bamford stays fit for 15 games and they have Gnoto and Rodrigo either side that will keep them up. All that said I do think Meslier is a very average keeper and don't see the huge potential so many seemingly do. He's still young but he's been first choice now since early 2020. Again silly mistakes from him yesterday. Edited January 14, 2023 by VillaChris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 13 hours ago, VillaChris said: Slight whisper of "Marsch out" from away end just before they score. I dunno I just find it harsh. We rarely played like that under Gerrard for example when we were calling for him to be sacked for months. He came in late last season with sole objective to keep them up (just) and achieved that. Then lost their two best players so if Leeds fans were expecting them to be like Brentford or Brighton then they're wildly optimistic imo. Think 14th/15th is about the best they can do and I'd still expect them to finish in one of those positions. More I think about it losing that Forest home game with the Queen passing did for them. They actually started off really well at home this season and Forest was a walking three points at that stage so them on 20 points now and they've got breathing space. Whisper it quietly but I'd prefer them to stay up as our games home and away v them have a nice edge to them compared to many of our fixtures and they're a long way off seriously challenging for europe so they shouldn't be a direct threat to us in coming seasons. If I were a Leeds fan I might take my cue from how the players respond to Marsch, and they all seem to be willing to die for him. I'd stick behind him as long as they're playing decent with good effort and not in the drop zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Four of their next five are against Brentford, Forest, Everton and Southampton. I can see 7 points from that. They'll be o.k although can see them mutually consenting Marsch at end of the season if they just stumble over the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 2 hours ago, The_Steve said: Very Ted Lasso isn’t it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 1 hour ago, maqroll said: If I were a Leeds fan I might take my cue from how the players respond to Marsch, and they all seem to be willing to die for him. I'd stick behind him as long as they're playing decent with good effort and not in the drop zone. I take the point of what @Rino8 said above, maybe we're all watching in one game thinking 'hmm despite the loss these were pretty good' but maybe that gets pretty old if it's what their fans watch every week. But overall I agree, they don't look like they're in disarray or anything, and I think if Bamford is back and going to stay fit that should help results improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 2 hours ago, The_Steve said: I understand what he is trying to get across but doesnt sound great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Did they just sign that Wober guy to take throw ins? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 38 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: Very Ted Lasso isn’t it I mean, he knows how to galvanise the players. But fans? I am fine with statements like that if you’ve had a couple of losses - but it’s okay to keep have 2 wins in 17? It’s not like they’ve not spent nothing either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Zatman said: I understand what he is trying to get across but doesnt sound great Yes, if their record wasn’t so abysmal I don’t see how you can keep pretending that you can learn from defeats. They’ve spent and really haven’t progressed from Bielsa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Apparently been some arrests as some trouble after the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rino8 Posted January 14, 2023 Visiting Supporter Share Posted January 14, 2023 2 hours ago, VillaChris said: I thought we struggled to track Aaronson at times with him floating off the front players. Not sure what @Rino8 thinks of his impact so far. Perhaps one who'll really click into productivity next season. Bit shite. Lots of energy, decent vision but he's getting knocked over by other teams auras at this point. Not a goal threat and struggles to impose himself at all. Hopefully when Sinisterra returns him and Gnonto will be a pretty scary couple of wingers. The latter has to be the most promising player we've had in about twenty years. Just turned 19 and he's putting every defender in the league on his arse 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Just seen Rodrigo shove one of the Elland Rd stewards, what a word removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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