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4 minutes ago, foreveryoung said:

I always think it must be for some of you guys. You all seem to take it to heart, when you hear people don't share your opinions and have a different view on life

Take for example, hearing people saying "we live in a racist racist society. When in reality, we realy dont. Its just a small minority of **** heads being, well **** heads. An a even smaller minority being possibly genuinely racists.

I think that's you.  People will disagree with you and, instead of holding a reasonable discussion, you go off on one about "OMG can't have a different opinion anymore".

You can - you're just in the minority.  People don't hold the same misogynistic and/or possibly racist views as you.  They don't see Eluko or Richards or Deeney on TV and think "well, that's some serious box ticking going on".  Do you think the same about Crouch being tall - having some box ticking exercise to get tall people on?  I bet not!

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16 minutes ago, bobzy said:

I think that's you.  People will disagree with you and, instead of holding a reasonable discussion, you go off on one about "OMG can't have a different opinion anymore".

You can - you're just in the minority.  People don't hold the same misogynistic and/or possibly racist views as you.  They don't see Eluko or Richards or Deeney on TV and think "well, that's some serious box ticking going on".  Do you think the same about Crouch being tall - having some box ticking exercise to get tall people on?  I bet not!

You just live it a different  social world chap. Just because about 5 people on VT comment and may agree with you, doesn't make me the minority. I have never in my life been called racist or misogynistic off VT so speaks volumes really.

Some people just need to wake up. It happens in every business. Many have had to up there numbers to look equal in the last decade. Even our department when I started had one Chinese guy and the rest white. Now it's up there with what you and society expects.

Anyway we are gonna be ****ed for off topic here, so let's move on.

Aluko was employed for her vast football insight I'm sure.

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18 minutes ago, foreveryoung said:

Aluko was employed for her vast football insight I'm sure.

Just like the rest of them then...

It is weird how she gets singled out for stick when let's be honest the vast majority of them are **** useless, she's no worse and at least she's not a miserable word removed like Murphy 

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19 minutes ago, villa4europe said:

Just like the rest of them then...

It is weird how she gets singled out for stick when let's be honest the vast majority of them are **** useless, she's no worse and at least she's not a miserable word removed like Murphy 

Yep she isnt a great pundit but is a lot worse with more high profile names. Neville, Ferdinand, Richards for a start but seems her being a woman is an issue for the incels online

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17 minutes ago, Zatman said:

Yep she isnt a great pundit but is a lot worse with more high profile names. Neville, Ferdinand, Richards for a start but seems her being a woman is an issue for the incels online

Theres no doubt, if your a women pundit, you have gotta know your shit, an many do. But shes is held more for her poor comments, and bullshit.

"Female managers discuss transfers together to get the owner to put a higher bid in".

"1 goal a game, do the math"

'Dwight errrrrr".

People always seem to want to call out racism and  misogyny, when really, it's just calling someone out because they are shit.

 

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12 minutes ago, foreveryoung said:

Theres no doubt, if your a women pundit, you have gotta know your shit, an many do. But shes is held more for her poor comments, and bullshit.

"Female managers discuss transfers together to get the owner to put a higher bid in".

"1 goal a game, do the math"

'Dwight errrrrr".

People always seem to want to call out racism and  misogyny, when really, it's just calling someone out because they are shit.

 

Since one of them comments isnt true maybe you should call yourself out

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14 minutes ago, foreveryoung said:

Which one? 

 

Well she didnt say female managers do that. She said her and other director of footballs did which some are male

If going call people out for false info maybe get your own info right

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7 minutes ago, Zatman said:

Well she didnt say female managers do that. She said her and other director of footballs did which some are male

If going call people out for false info maybe get your own info right

I stand corrected.

Still a ridiculous thing to say or do though. An she did say, she thought pep probably did this on the Declan Rice deal????   

She really don't help herself at times.

 

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24 minutes ago, Kuwabatake Sanjuro said:

Not to be one of those paranoid conspiracy theorists but if you look at the BBC Premier League page then you'd think there was no game in Villa park today.

Headlines and reports for every other game.

Yep it looks like nobody has even written a match report yet

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Speaking of BBC they have been going incredibly hard this week with Harry Kane breaking nothing records including today's Bundesliga record he broke.

Today's record is he became the top scoring English player in Bundesliga history. Hardly a noteworthy record considering lack of English players that go to Germany

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Intro to the game on MOTD tonight;

"Several of Aston Villa's European Cup Winners of 1982 here today... Including Tony Morley, who provided the cross for Peter Withe's headed goal"

Do some basic research, mate eh? Maybe just actually watch the bloody goal first?

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30 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said:

Yes it's interesting that the usual deep Media Studies analysis in this thread around our MOTD placing doesn't seem to have happened after last night. 

Interestingly I caught the start and it made me think we're possibly turning the corner with the TV media. It was always going to take time, but we've now sustained our form for about 21 months. If we keep it up we'll start getting the recognition. In previous seasons you know the Liverpool game would have been first on with the shock result.

Obviously a "come from behind win" and "derby" is always going to be a big draw but that's never meant much before.

Be interesting to see how many times we're on first compared with previous years If we maintain our position (which would be no diffferent from last season).

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I absolutely detest Peter Drury. He was always bad on itv, but he's got worse since joining sky. I'm not in any way a master of verse, but he seems to think he's the second coming of Shakespeare, constantly going over the top to describe events surrounding and during a game of football. Especially when it's a Sky 6 team.

Maybe one for things that piss you off that shouldn't thread.

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