Isa Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 He's been poor but then so has everybody else. Compounded by the set up today which has been exploited perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 I've said it before and I will say it again ....Lightweight, despite being not a bad player. This game today has shown up some of our deficiencies.....despite us being quite good at many things. give us space and we will give you trouble, deny us space and close us down, we go to pieces, we are not up for the battle. .....Its been said over the years by some eminent managers...." you have to win the right to play football"..... we failed to win the right today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 16, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted May 16, 2015 Thought he was one of the few today that looked like he actually put 100% into the game. He wasn't great, same as the whole team, but at least he put the effort in. There's half a dozen at least players you could have a go at today before Westwood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted May 16, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted May 16, 2015 It's weird. After a bad performance, other player's threads are quiet but westwood will cop flak. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Westwood was better than cleverly today. Much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 I think they were clearly all exhausted. Hopefully we give them a week off and play a totally different midfield against Burnley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMcKenna Posted May 16, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted May 16, 2015 Today was Absolutely nothing nothing to do with Westwood and everything to do with Vlaar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Clearly one of the goals was very much to do with Westwood, but as I say, I think we can chalk this one down to tiredness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heid3ster Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Once he got the yellow he was pretty much out of the game. Not his best day. Not anyone's best day. Today was Absolutely nothing nothing to do with Westwood and everything to do with Vlaar I'd partially agree with that -- we sort of collapsed like a row of dominoes. Vlaar was the first to fall but he was by no means the last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 The trouble, is when you have a defence that performs THAT badly, then everybody else suffers as a result. How do you have any sort of confidence when the players behind you are playing like that? The midfield weren't at their best, but the blame for that stems with Vlaar and Okore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted May 17, 2015 Moderator Share Posted May 17, 2015 The trouble, is when you have a defence that performs THAT badly, then everybody else suffers as a result. How do you have any sort of confidence when the players behind you are playing like that? The midfield weren't at their best, but the blame for that stems with Vlaar and Okore. I don't think so. I think they all played badly - to take your point, you could say when the defence are playing badly, they need the midifeld to help them out - team agme and all that. The midfield didn't help them out. The tactics were wrong and Hutton was out of position. The whole lot in the first half was a shambles. But yeah, the defending was abysmal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakid007 Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 Good player but if we want to challenge Everton & Swansea for 8th - 10th we need better players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 Good player but if we want to challenge Everton & Swansea for 8th - 10th we need better players Why, who do they have that is better and plays in the same role? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted May 18, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted May 18, 2015 Good player but if we want to challenge Everton & Swansea for 8th - 10th we need better players Why, who do they have that is better and plays in the same role? I see this said a lot. Frustrates the hell out of me. Westwood > Barry who plays in the same role. Ki > Westwood for Swansea but it isn't that far off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 Good player but if we want to challenge Everton & Swansea for 8th - 10th we need better players Why, who do they have that is better and plays in the same role? I see this said a lot. Frustrates the hell out of me. Westwood > Barry who plays in the same role. Ki > Westwood for Swansea but it isn't that far off. Plus Ki would cost more than we'd probably get in return for Westwood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted May 18, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted May 18, 2015 Good player but if we want to challenge Everton & Swansea for 8th - 10th we need better players Why, who do they have that is better and plays in the same role? I see this said a lot. Frustrates the hell out of me. Westwood > Barry who plays in the same role. Ki > Westwood for Swansea but it isn't that far off. Plus Ki would cost more than we'd probably get in return for Westwood. I was quoting dakid as well. I was agreeing with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 (edited) I was quoting dakid as well. I was agreeing with you I know, I was agreeing with you further bro! Edited May 18, 2015 by sexbelowsound 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 Get a room already 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 Get a room already That's what I was going for. The cheesy American vibe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 you sometimes have to win ugly.... we need players who can do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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