PaulC Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Everyone has a right to have a go at a manager, however when a person has a go at his every decision, writing off his signings, his tactics, saying we were outplayed in wins, complaining at who we didn't sign, Your opinion of the manager effectively becomes worthless. So there is a quota of how many decisions by the manager can be crticised before your opinion becomes worthless? Okey Dokey! No not a quota, as such more like we know you don't like Lambert, we know it, so anything Lambert does you will knock it anyway. If we beat someone, it'll be about how the other team was so bad. You made a statement there about favouritism, and it proves that very point, another fan could say its loyalty he is showing to players like Westwood and Weimann, knowing they will come good. You say favouritism, if he shown favouritism surely KEA wouldn't be in the side with the majority wanting Sylla in the side. Except that I have never once called for Lambert to go. I back him but remain unconvinced by him. As for the favoritism argument, if it were about showing loyalty then he wouldn't have dropped Lowton. Puting an out of form Westwood back into the team after the midfield three played well enough against Man City is just blatant favoritism however you may try and spin it. Same goes for keeping an abject Weimann in the team week-upon-week when Lowton was dropped for less. We had 33% possession against City. Generally we have more possession with Westwood in the team. I don'f agree with this favouritism thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 (edited) Everyone has a right to have a go at a manager, however when a person has a go at his every decision, writing off his signings, his tactics, saying we were outplayed in wins, complaining at who we didn't sign, Your opinion of the manager effectively becomes worthless. So there is a quota of how many decisions by the manager can be crticised before your opinion becomes worthless? Okey Dokey! No not a quota, as such more like we know you don't like Lambert, we know it, so anything Lambert does you will knock it anyway. If we beat someone, it'll be about how the other team was so bad. You made a statement there about favouritism, and it proves that very point, another fan could say its loyalty he is showing to players like Westwood and Weimann, knowing they will come good. You say favouritism, if he shown favouritism surely KEA wouldn't be in the side with the majority wanting Sylla in the side. Except that I have never once called for Lambert to go. I back him but remain unconvinced by him. As for the favoritism argument, if it were about showing loyalty then he wouldn't have dropped Lowton. Puting an out of form Westwood back into the team after the midfield three played well enough against Man City is just blatant favoritism however you may try and spin it. Same goes for keeping an abject Weimann in the team week-upon-week when Lowton was dropped for less. We had 33% possession against City. Generally we have more possession with Westwood in the team. I don'f agree with this favouritism thing. 37% possession against Spurs. I rest my case... Edited October 23, 2013 by Isa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 it doesnt actually as he said we have more possession with him in the team, which we had 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Good to see it is not just me... http://www.proudtobeavillan.co.uk/article.asp?a=1071 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myko Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 You seriously thought it was just you? Have you opened this thread recently? Sorry to burst your bubble but I'm pretty sure at least half if not the majority of us think he has been very poor recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 You seriously thought it was just you? Have you opened this thread recently? Sorry to burst your bubble but I'm pretty sure at least half if not the majority of us think he has been very poor recently. I'm talking more about him being overrated and only in the team due to favoritism rather then acceptance that he is in poor form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic_bouma Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 I'd just like a midfielder who doesn't have legs like a chickens. Not too much to ask is it? When I see KEA and Westwood together I just think of the opposition rubbing there hands. Where's our Diame, Tiote, Sandro, or Wanyama? No idea what Sylla has got to do to get a game Weak as piss our midfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982 Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 I'd just like a midfielder who doesn't have legs like a chickens. Not too much to ask is it? When I see KEA and Westwood together I just think of the opposition rubbing there hands. Where's our Diame, Tiote, Sandro, or Wanyama? No idea what Sylla has got to do to get a game Weak as piss our midfield The whole squad is weak apart from Benteke and perhaps Guzan. I've said it before, There's a touch of the 'emperors new clothes' syndrome about Villa under Lambert/Lerner. The players at the club aren't 'young and hungry' gems, they're just cheap. And that's what Lerner's new Villa is all about. Cheap. And of course the proof is in the pudding. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 23, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted October 23, 2013 I'd just like a midfielder who doesn't have legs like a chickens. Not too much to ask is it? When I see KEA and Westwood together I just think of the opposition rubbing there hands. Where's our Diame, Tiote, Sandro, or Wanyama? No idea what Sylla has got to do to get a game Weak as piss our midfield The whole squad is weak apart from Benteke and perhaps Guzan. I've said it before, There's a touch of the 'emperors new clothes' syndrome about Villa under Lambert/Lerner. The players at the club aren't 'young and hungry' gems, they're just cheap. And that's what Lerner's new Villa is all about. Cheap.And of course the proof is in the pudding. You're right. We've had a really easy start to the season and we're in the relegation zo-- Oh. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StigVillan Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 I'd just like a midfielder who doesn't have legs like a chickens. Not too much to ask is it? When I see KEA and Westwood together I just think of the opposition rubbing there hands. Where's our Diame, Tiote, Sandro, or Wanyama? No idea what Sylla has got to do to get a game Weak as piss our midfield The whole squad is weak apart from Benteke and perhaps Guzan. I've said it before, There's a touch of the 'emperors new clothes' syndrome about Villa under Lambert/Lerner. The players at the club aren't 'young and hungry' gems, they're just cheap. And that's what Lerner's new Villa is all about. Cheap. And of course the proof is in the pudding. You're right. We've had a really easy start to the season and we're in the relegation zo-- Oh. Stop using logic and reason... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 For what its worth, i think we will beat Everton. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Everyone has a right to have a go at a manager, however when a person has a go at his every decision, writing off his signings, his tactics, saying we were outplayed in wins, complaining at who we didn't sign, Your opinion of the manager effectively becomes worthless. So there is a quota of how many decisions by the manager can be crticised before your opinion becomes worthless? Okey Dokey! No not a quota, as such more like we know you don't like Lambert, we know it, so anything Lambert does you will knock it anyway. If we beat someone, it'll be about how the other team was so bad. You made a statement there about favouritism, and it proves that very point, another fan could say its loyalty he is showing to players like Westwood and Weimann, knowing they will come good. You say favouritism, if he shown favouritism surely KEA wouldn't be in the side with the majority wanting Sylla in the side. Except that I have never once called for Lambert to go. I back him but remain unconvinced by him. As for the favoritism argument, if it were about showing loyalty then he wouldn't have dropped Lowton. Puting an out of form Westwood back into the team after the midfield three played well enough against Man City is just blatant favoritism however you may try and spin it. Same goes for keeping an abject Weimann in the team week-upon-week when Lowton was dropped for less. We had 33% possession against City. Generally we have more possession with Westwood in the team. I don'f agree with this favouritism thing. 37% possession against Spurs. I rest my case... Most of their posession was in there own half - it doesnt't tell the story of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Have not seen anything this season to reverse the reservations I had about him last year. Some were tipping him for England - frightening! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 he always keeps the ball moving. I must be missing something because we rarely keep it for more than 2 or 3 passes. Certainly didnt on Sunday where the entire team was poor with the ball, really poor. Not that that was a surprise mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 he always keeps the ball moving. I must be missing something because we rarely keep it for more than 2 or 3 passes. Certainly didnt on Sunday where the entire team was poor with the ball, really poor. Not that that was a surprise mind. Very true and that's the whole team that's responsible for that and not just the midfield. Our defenders often hoof the ball up the pitch bypassing the midfield. Even Guzan kicks more than he throws and it mormally comes straight back as Kozak rarely wins anything. It should help a bit with Benteke back in the team. It will be interesting to see how much possession we have against Everton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Most of their posession was in there own half - it doesnt't tell the story of the game. What that we struggled to string a few passes together? I think it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwan Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Thought he had a good game. Much better from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Thought he had a good game. Much better from him. I thought he was very poor, gave the ball away a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 26, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted October 26, 2013 Didn't think he was as bad as everyone is suggesting. Looked better before he got that sore one from McCarthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunnski Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 His touch was terrible, his passing was woeful. The only things he did right all day were a couple of ok'ish corners and put some decent pressure on Evertons midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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