villa4europe Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 1 hour ago, sne said: Any hot takes on the Trump rally shootings yet? Staged as **** How many shots? Sounds like he fired a load off after they swarmed trump too, not seen any news of anyone killed or anyone else shot, he fired around 8 shots and the result was a graze to trump and everyone else is ok? That's a big nope from me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 1 minute ago, villa4europe said: Staged as **** How many shots? Sounds like he fired a load off after they swarmed trump too, not seen any news of anyone killed or anyone else shot, he fired around 8 shots and the result was a graze to trump and everyone else is ok? That's a big nope from me Seen that it's 2 dead (the shooter being 1) and a couple with serious injuries in hospital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 1 minute ago, sne said: Seen that it's 2 dead (the shooter being 1) and a couple with serious injuries in hospital. But no one from the pile was hit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 7 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Staged as **** How many shots? Sounds like he fired a load off after they swarmed trump too, not seen any news of anyone killed or anyone else shot, he fired around 8 shots and the result was a graze to trump and everyone else is ok? That's a big nope from me The graze means he came a couple of inches from having his brains blown out. You reckon Trump signs up for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 2 minutes ago, Davkaus said: The graze means he came a couple of inches from having his brains blown out. You reckon Trump signs up for that? The bullet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 12 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Staged as **** How many shots? Sounds like he fired a load off after they swarmed trump too, not seen any news of anyone killed or anyone else shot, he fired around 8 shots and the result was a graze to trump and everyone else is ok? That's a big nope from me I'm baffled as to how people immediately jump to nonsense conspiracy instead of just accepting what actually happened in reality. Of course it wasn't staged. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 2 minutes ago, Davkaus said: The graze means he came a couple of inches from having his brains blown out. You reckon Trump signs up for that? By a marksman with an AR-15 not a chance By someone who also had a smaller calibre BB gun / pellet gun? Absolutely In reality, no, they'll be nothing in this, it will be the distance that's **** it all But how they've missed trump which is what it is, the weird thing is how they've then not fired in to the SS scrum, if it was SS men dead and injured no questions asked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 The good news is that given the incompetence of Trump's team and the rate at which things leak out of there, it definitely wouldn't stay a covert conspiracy for very long, they'd have sent emails of it and attached photos of the roof labelled "where I want the gunman to stand" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Could be their reichstag I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 11 minutes ago, villa4europe said: By a marksman with an AR-15 not a chance By someone who also had a smaller calibre BB gun / pellet gun? Absolutely In reality, no, they'll be nothing in this, it will be the distance that's **** it all But how they've missed trump which is what it is, the weird thing is how they've then not fired in to the SS scrum, if it was SS men dead and injured no questions asked Three timeline of it will be interesting. Did he see he'd hit Trump and start to try to get away before he got caught? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 9 minutes ago, Davkaus said: Three timeline of it will be interesting. Did he see he'd hit Trump and start to try to get away before he got caught? I think the speeding up of the shots suggests that he knows that missed But again when he starts firing rapido how is he seemingly not firing in to a pile of SS men Almost like when he opens up he's shooting at something else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 1 hour ago, villa4europe said: Staged as **** How many shots? Sounds like he fired a load off after they swarmed trump too, not seen any news of anyone killed or anyone else shot, he fired around 8 shots and the result was a graze to trump and everyone else is ok? That's a big nope from me Im sorry but that is quite frankly ridiculous. How can you stage a shooting like that. Do you realise how skilled a shooter you would have to be to do this? And you think trump would trust some one enough to do it? Thats madness mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 (edited) 1 hour ago, NoelVilla said: I even have myself wondering why they don't wrestle him down and rush him off stage. Now they kind of walk him off for a great photo opportunity. This will have conspiracy nuts go in to overdrive. That was the weirdest part about it. Also all the crowd not fleeing with an obvious active shooter. I guess they're used to it, or bystander effect Edited July 14 by Kiwivillan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Dogg Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 1 hour ago, villa4europe said: Staged as **** How many shots? Sounds like he fired a load off after they swarmed trump too, not seen any news of anyone killed or anyone else shot, he fired around 8 shots and the result was a graze to trump and everyone else is ok? That's a big nope from me Is it not the counter fire you hear? He gets off 2 or 3 and is then shot by the secret service. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 By the time Trump stands up they know the shooter is dead. People would rather turn themselves into knots than accept the obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted July 15 VT Supporter Share Posted July 15 8 hours ago, LondonLax said: By the time Trump stands up they know the shooter is dead. People would rather turn themselves into knots than accept the obvious. But do they 100% know for sure if there was another shooter? It's a security failing let him stand up for a photo opportunity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Lifeboats Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 (edited) 2 hours ago, Rds1983 said: It's a security failing let him stand up for a photo opportunity. It's a security failing to keep him on the ground when there might be another incoming attack. Security did exactly the right thing. They surrounded him then attempted to get him into his bullet proof car. Trump was determined to get the photo opportunity. Edited July 15 by Mandy Lifeboats Speeling mishsteaks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted July 15 VT Supporter Share Posted July 15 51 minutes ago, Mandy Lifeboats said: It's a security failing to keep him on the ground when there might be another incoming attack. Security did exactly the right thing. They surrounded him then attempted to get him into his bullet proof car. Trump was determined to get the photo opportunity. If a group of security agents cannot stop a 78 year old man in poor health from standing up and posing for a photo, that's a security failing. Can him down, get him covered, get him out of there. They should have been in control of the situation, not him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 didn't use Heinz , always knew he was a wrong un 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Lifeboats Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 10 minutes ago, Rds1983 said: If a group of security agents cannot stop a 78 year old man in poor health from standing up and posing for a photo, that's a security failing. Can him down, get him covered, get him out of there. They should have been in control of the situation, not him. Yes. You are right. They should haver tasered him and put him in handcuffs to keep him down. Why didn't they all lie on top of him, break his ribs and collapse his lungs? That would have kept him safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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