BOF Posted September 4, 2012 Moderator Share Posted September 4, 2012 Baker ain't ready and Clark has more clangers than Dunne in him.Maybe I'm inferring incorrectly but I think while what you say is true, Dunne's clanger count is going up as his mobility decreases and Clark's clanger count is going down as he gains experience. Now I'm one of Dunne's bigger fans on here and I'm also glad he's still around because without him we'd have 1 solitary experienced CB in the entire squad. But (and here's where I may be inferring incorrectly) I would still have Clark as first choice and maybe have Baker & Dunne as a toss-up for first sub. Dunne has a use this season but he does represent very much the past. Clark is our future and must be allowed to become the player he can become; and must be allowed to make the mistakes so he can remove them from his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaGoMarching Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Baker ain't ready and Clark has more clangers than Dunne in him. Difference is, Baker and Clark are both young/developing. Dunne is just a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Baker ain't ready and Clark has more clangers than Dunne in him. However, the own goal ratio suggests otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 When dunne is fully fit he must start alongside vlaar. for me thats a no brainer, i think dunne and vlaar has the potential to be a superb partnership Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 I'd keep Clark there even when Dunne comes back.. Dunne isn't the long term solution and will just be a short fix (fine if we are down relegation places again) but I think we'll be ok with Clark/Baker. Plus Dunne's contract is up next summer and he will be 33 in a few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 4, 2012 Moderator Share Posted September 4, 2012 I doubt Dunne could cope with the pace that Villa played with at Newcastle, he'd be a spectator most of the time. And yes even in defence we closed down very quickly, not too sure Dunne's up to that to be perfectly frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazdavies79 Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Baker ain't ready and Clark has more clangers than Dunne in him. Difference is, Baker and Clark are both young/developing. Dunne is just a mess.Baker has a chance, but is not ready. Clark seems to still make errors, more so than Dunne I think. Dunne has the experience, which will help the other three. Nothing about the Newcastle game would have caused Dunne any special difficulty. Wow I'm defending Dunne! I need to go for a lay down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8pints Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 I doubt Dunne could cope with the pace that Villa played with at Newcastle, he'd be a spectator most of the time. And yes even in defence we closed down very quickly, not too sure Dunne's up to that to be perfectly frank Yeah I agree with you. I think the speed of our play was also one of the possible reasons Clark was chosen over Baker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwpzxjor1 Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 I doubt Dunne could cope with the pace that Villa played with at Newcastle, he'd be a spectator most of the time. And yes even in defence we closed down very quickly, not too sure Dunne's up to that to be perfectly frank This is exactly what I was about to write. I just can't see Dunne being able to play the Lambert way. His experience will be vital - but limited to the training ground from now on, I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponky Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 I can't see Dunne coping with Vlaar galavanting 3/4 of the way up the pitch either, as he is wont to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-67 Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Dunne is done. End of story. The younger lads can learn off him but he is no longer an established member of the first eleven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8pints Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Dunne is done. End of story. The younger lads can learn off him but he is no longer an established member of the first eleven. Dunne is done and Given isn't a given Although Dunne may still have a role of sharing his knowledge of being a Premier League defender to the young and the new. (But I imagine some may not want him trying to teach ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shillzz Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 What has happened to Dunne? He was injured over the summer and was expected to be out for about 6 weeks. 3 Months later and we've not heard a sniff about him, no hint of a return. Has he been told to stay away a la Hutton & Warnock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabby Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Latest is he should be back for December Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eames Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 What has happened to Dunne? He was injured over the summer and was expected to be out for about 6 weeks. 3 Months later and we've not heard a sniff about him, no hint of a return. Has he been told to stay away a la Hutton & Warnock? Fat and Drunk no doubt. A bit like the lay off Rooney had when he cut his leg. Can't play football but managed to lose half a stone in weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Blessing for ciaran clark really. Still happy to have him come back into contentiin for the remainder of his contract now he's unlikely to get in the way of clarks developnent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Maybe he is perhaps seen as replacement to an injured Clark or Vlaar now until January/Summer I feel 6-7 players could be gone by January if not definately by the end of the season. They know who they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Lambert wont bin that many players mid season imo. Maybe hutton or warnock but otherwise they'll stay even with additions. (and then bugger off in the summrr ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarpie Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Hutton and Warnock are probably gone in january, but I think he'll keep Dunne unless he can get another experienced but younger defender to replace him. Dunne's best days are behind him but he can still do the job if needed and his experience can be very important in spring and give confidence to the young players around him and Vlaar. Who else could be gone? Maybe Delph, Albrighton and N'Zogbia if he can get replaments but I don't see that happening before summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Possibly Given, Dunne, Warnock, Hutton, Makoun, Bent, Delfoneso, Ireland and perhaps Nzog & Delph too. Whatever ones don't leave in Jan I would be very suprised to still see here after the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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