dakid007 Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 I blame the managers tactics. Lambert is going to get us in big trouble. We need to get rid of him I'm sure we won't 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 I don't want to judge him too much because he's just come back from a horrible injury. Like Benteke he's going to need time to get back to his best. Maybe he hasn't done it consistently over his whole career but at least he has the ability to do it which is more than can be said for most of our squad. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 (edited) He is just another paradox in the whole scheme. Sure he has guile at times and then other times he is totally ineffective....I think he scored a damn good goal against us at villa park, when playing for WIgan, whether that influenced us to go after him, I'm not sure. There are many of our players that seem to attract the inconsistency like him.....he is just coming back from a major injury, but wasn't Ross Barkley just returning from injury, perhaps not as major, but seemed to react to business much quicker. I have a real suspicion, some of us seem to muster excuses on almost every occasion. Edited October 19, 2014 by TRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 (edited) No manager has ever got the best performances out of him because his attitude is shit. The only two times he has ever played anywhere near decent for more than a game were at Wigan before two transfer windows when he wanted a move. It isn't down to the managers, it is down to the player even the guy who wasted £9.5m on him for us questioned his attitude. That is incorrect. At Wigan under Martinez he had some really good performances and not just near transfer windows. It isn't and he didn't, he had two good spells right before two transfer windows. Wrong. Even Martinez referred to N'Zogbia's consistency across a season. He even got 9 league goals in his last season at Wigan but I guess he played for a team that played a bit of football then so had some chances. Not like the current anti-football where few are impressing. Edited October 19, 2014 by Brumstopdogs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 We've got to go out and attack Qpr. They looked like scoring a few today but weak at the back. Just hope Lambert sees this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted October 20, 2014 Moderator Share Posted October 20, 2014 No manager has ever got the best performances out of him because his attitude is shit. The only two times he has ever played anywhere near decent for more than a game were at Wigan before two transfer windows when he wanted a move. It isn't down to the managers, it is down to the player even the guy who wasted £9.5m on him for us questioned his attitude. That is incorrect. At Wigan under Martinez he had some really good performances and not just near transfer windows. It isn't and he didn't, he had two good spells right before two transfer windows. Wrong. Even Martinez referred to N'Zogbia's consistency across a season. He even got 9 league goals in his last season at Wigan but I guess he played for a team that played a bit of football then so had some chances. Not like the current anti-football where few are impressing. You can say wrong and incorrect as much as you like it isn't going to make it a fact. Quite simply I don't agree with you or with whatever Martinez said given he was more than likely trying to push his price up at the time. As for the 9 league goals he scored in his last season with Wigan, 5 of them came in the last few games of the season as the transfer window approached and before he threatened to go on strike if he wasn't allowed to move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 surely if Martinez thought he was so brilliant he would have signed him when he was bombsquadded last season and we were giving him away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 This might be frowned upon, but I'd honestly play him as the second striker in the free role against QPR. He links up well with Benteke and appears to be on the same wave length as him. Think they could do some intricate passes together. We need someone closer to Benteke rather than a massive gap. It would also mean he wouldn't have to track back as much and given more license to go forward. Think he would be more dangerous than Gabby or Weimann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 He was woeful Saturday, to argue otherwise would be churlish. I don't see how to blame tactics for this either, other than the fact he was left on way too long. Dreadful performance, dreadful attitude. Don't think we will be seeing him for a while, thankfully. And I'm one of his admirers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 surely if Martinez thought he was so brilliant he would have signed him when he was bombsquadded last season and we were giving him away After that injury no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Needs swapping for Jackie G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 You can say wrong and incorrect as much as you like it isn't going to make it a fact. Quite simply I don't agree with you or with whatever Martinez said given he was more than likely trying to push his price up at the time. As for the 9 league goals he scored in his last season with Wigan, 5 of them came in the last few games of the season as the transfer window approached and before he threatened to go on strike if he wasn't allowed to move. Or alternatively Martinez was just praising a player who scored 9 times and got 5 assists in a superb season for the player - no wonder he wanted to keep him and we wanted to buy him. As for the timing of the goals he did score some vital ones (maybe if we set up in the right way he might be more effective for us). Out of his 9 goals he scored in 5 different months and none of the goals were within 30 days of a transfer window opening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 he threatened to go on strike if he wasn't allowed to move. Wonder if we could persuade him to do the same at Villa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 For nzogbia to be on strike he'd have to stop breathing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 There's just no in-between in he's performances, he's either absolute shit to the point you wonder how he become he professional footballer or he's the best player on the pitch. No middle ground. No 6 out of 10 performances. It either happens for him or it doesn't. The trouble is Its only 'happened' for him in about 4 games in he's time here. If we can get any cash for him in the January window I would take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojong Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Thought he was excellent today and he has to start every time. Yes he's inconsistent and decisionmaking isn't great but we don't have others capable of doing what he does. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 He wasn't happy after the second goal went in. Sitting on the bench gesturing and complaining about something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJT123 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I saw that as well. I think he looked like he was talking about Sanchez conceding that free kick as he appeared to gesticulate about someone being stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Zog is our best player. Only one who is able to create something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevpants Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Great assist. Cross with the outside of the foot. That is some old school, proper skill right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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