Mantis Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Lambert has had no positive impact, not even an initial burst. It's all very concerning. Hate to say it but I think McLeish would have got more points out of the opening 8 games. I agree with you actually because this would've been McLeish's second season and he would've had a chance to further instill his anti-football into the team and bring in more cloggers to suit his style, so we'd be even more effective at grinding out dull 0-0 draws and snatching an occasional 1-0. The football would be terrible though and we'd forever be lower mid-table under him. That's the best case scenario. We could've just as easily been at this point under McLeish with no wins at all. A big problem at the moment is lack of continuity, both with the players and management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Did I read correctly that Agbonlahor hasn't scored in 26 premiership games? ....I don't understand why he is currently playing? I think it should be Benteke and Bent up front for sure.... If not, then 1 of those two up front alone with 5 in midfield... I love gabby, I really do, but he is not doing it for the team right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanky Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 The strikers aren't the problem at the moment (although Benteke missing sitters are not helping), but the midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Take the 40 pt mark as needed to stay up, that's 10 wins and 10 draws with 18 defeats in a season, we have 1 win and 2 draws so far with 30 left, of those 30 we have Norwich Reading Qpr Wigan West ham (h) Southampton (h) Fulham (h) Plenty of games left to get the 40 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Take the 40 pt mark as needed to stay up, that's 10 wins and 10 draws with 18 defeats in a season, we have 1 win and 2 draws so far with 30 left, of those 30 we have Norwich Reading Qpr Wigan West ham (h) Southampton (h) Fulham (h) Plenty of games left to get the 40 points. I actually think we'll take a fair few points of the midtable clubs too as the season goes on, ala Newcastle. We've been competitive in every game so far except Everton, it's not like we are getting hammered. There's obviously significant room for improvement but we'll get there, give it time. That said, for the sake of confidence we could do with a result next weekend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 I only make that 26 points.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 The strikers aren't the problem at the moment (although Benteke missing sitters are not helping), but the midfield. And the inability to defend... So really it's all over... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 I only make that 26 points.... Home and.away. we will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Home and.away. we will be fine. Are you seriously claiming we will win all of those matches? They will be massive for the other clubs as well as us and we cannot rely on sweeping up the points from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Not saying we will win them. Not at all, just pointing out the fixtures we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Third season in a row where relegation is something to worry about. It's depressing how low this club has dropped under the ownership of Randy Lerner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Yes, its completely different from under Doug when we were competing at the top and winning cu....... Hold on 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstonMartin82 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Not saying we will win them. Not at all, just pointing out the fixtures we have. Everyone has the same fixtures come the end of the season and in reality we have had a pretty easy ride as start of seasons go. It's going to be a long hard season, but I wasn't disillusioned at the start of the season so I guess it sits easier with me than it does with a lot of people posting in this thread. Plus Lerner has spent in Januaries when things aren't going well. Though I think it would be hard to attract to Villa the type of player we will require to get out of this mess come January. Heyho, regardless of where we finish come the end, I have had a great laugh hanging around in this thread reading the massive over-reactions to relegation when we lose and massive over-reactions to "Europe here we come!" when we won (singular LOL). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 And the inability to defend... So really it's all over... Yep, we're already down. What's the point in trying? Season over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1974Centenary Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Take the 40 pt mark as needed to stay up, that's 10 wins and 10 draws with 18 defeats in a season, we have 1 win and 2 draws so far with 30 left, of those 30 we have Norwich Reading Qpr Wigan West ham (h) Southampton (h) Fulham (h) Plenty of games left to get the 40 points. Three of those teams have beaten us already and i can see it happening again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Yes, its completely different from under Doug when we were competing at the top and winning cu....... Hold on Yeah just as shit as under Doug and spent hundreds of millions to do that. What an owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raver50032 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I just think there is a bad smell around the club and that is Randy Lerner. Until he goes we will never be anything other than strugglers, and our luck is going to run out eventually, maybe it will be this season. Call for Graham Taylor, wearing that yellow jumper... I think that's what he said about the smell around Villa Park when he took over... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted October 22, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted October 22, 2012 Yeah just as shit as under Doug and spent hundreds of millions to do that. What an owner. We get it, you don't like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Did I read correctly that Agbonlahor hasn't scored in 26 premiership games? ....I don't understand why he is currently playing? I think it should be Benteke and Bent up front for sure.... If not, then 1 of those two up front alone with 5 in midfield... I love gabby, I really do, but he is not doing it for the team right now. Gabby is another who I think i probably wouldn't mind if he left to be honest, Villa through and through etc yes that's all fine but he has done NOTHING consistently for almost 2 years. Blame the manager blame whoever you want but we could sure use his wages (no doubt one of the higher earners) to someone who actually has the quality to do things consistently. One of the senior members of the squad he should be doing ALOT more than he is currently doing.. but hey let's blame Lambert for that aswell - it's never Gabby's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honest_bertie Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Gabby is another who I think i probably wouldn't mind if he left to be honest, Villa through and through etc yes that's all fine but he has done NOTHING consistently for almost 2 years. Blame the manager blame whoever you want but we could sure use his wages (no doubt one of the higher earners) to someone who actually has the quality to do things consistently. One of the senior members of the squad he should be doing ALOT more than he is currently doing.. but hey let's blame Lambert for that aswell - it's never Gabby's fault. Got to agree with that, have always liked Gabby and fully respect his love for the club but in the cold light of day he's not been consistently good enough for a number of seasons now. Had a great game against Man C in the league cup but it seems to be a bit of a reoccurring theme, has a great game, goes missing for the next however many. We may well be flirting with relegation this season but I will hold faith in Lambert, he was one of the two managers I wanted and I am happy he is here. He's making a few decisions which I find myself questioning, e.g how come Weiman not getting a look in and Gabby is, the refusal to try a bit more width but I think he is the best man for the job, we can't keep changing managers and out of the last three I do believe he is the best long term prospect, its going to be a hard next few months but I believe we'll get through it and come out better the other side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts