GENTLEMAN Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I am still actually laughing at Koeman's comments, I have seriously never seen a manager this arrogant or stupid. Surely it is fake? He is even taking credit for Vlaar's development with us. Ronald get your head firmly out of your arse bud. I don't see the problem with his comments. Actually find his honesty quite refreshing. Honesty? Give me a break. Nothing but delusion and disrespect in those comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 (edited) I am still actually laughing at Koeman's comments, I have seriously never seen a manager this arrogant or stupid. Surely it is fake? He is even taking credit for Vlaar's development with us. Ronald get your head firmly out of your arse bud. I don't see the problem with his comments. Actually find his honesty quite refreshing. Honesty? Give me a break. Nothing but delusion and disrespect in those comments. Maybe I haven't seen the full interview. All I see is how much he has always rated Vlaar and how he would love him at Southampton. He was asked the question and he answered it. Edited August 14, 2014 by Vive_La_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oaks Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Put a bid In koeman do things propaly. Not liking the change in attitude with Lambert. Probably already has - or something pretty close to it - He wants Vlaar and knows he will have to agree a fee with Villa - it might be handled at CEO level - with Lambert in the dark. The cynic in me wonders if the Vlaar fee is how we could afford to sign Cissokho\Sanchez.... If that's the case he doesn't need to go public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandaq Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Koeman should really shut the **** up before he speaks like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I am still actually laughing at Koeman's comments, I have seriously never seen a manager this arrogant or stupid. Surely it is fake? He is even taking credit for Vlaar's development with us. Ronald get your head firmly out of your arse bud. Does he? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holtend4life Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Southampton just signed Gardos, they have 4 first team centre backs now as it stands. Will that make a difference to them signing Vlaar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 (edited) I am still actually laughing at Koeman's comments, I have seriously never seen a manager this arrogant or stupid. Surely it is fake? He is even taking credit for Vlaar's development with us. Ronald get your head firmly out of your arse bud. Does he? "Vlaar became one of the best Oranje defenders at us, at Feyenoord [my old club]," he told Helden,. "And, at the last World Cup, he became one of the best of the tournament." I would argue he does with that statement, especially "one of the best" with Feyenoord. Forgive me if I am wrong, but I certainly do not remember many enthralled with Vlaar's Euro 2012 performance (whilst at Feyenoord) and equally I did not see many teams declare an interest in signing Ron when we did. I am sure Koeman will say otherwise via the media in the coming days though. Stay tuned. Edited August 14, 2014 by GENTLEMAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 When somebody mucks up the quote system, and then you quote them, can you at least try to correct the error? Takes about 30 second or so, even on mobile. If you don't, your post will be ignored, and perhaps you've something interesting to say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 "Vlaar became one of the best Oranje defenders at us, at Feyenoord [my old club]," he told Helden,. "And, at the last World Cup, he became one of the best of the tournament." - I would argue he does with that statement, especially "one of the best" with Feyenoord. Forgive me if I am wrong, but I certainly do not remember many enthralled with Vlaar's Euro 2012 performance (whilst at Feyenoord) and equally I did not see many teams declare an interest in signing Ron when we did. I am sure Koeman will say otherwise via the media in the coming days though. Stay tuned. He did become one of Holland's best defenders (not difficult at the time to be fair) in order to break into the team and start during the Euros though. Just reads like Koeman is praising Vlaar's rise during his first season managing Feyenoord rather than crediting himself with any further development whilst here. Ultimately, even if he had said what a great club Villa are and what a great job Lambert has done with Vlaar, it would still be equally disrespectful. The problem is with him name-dropping and especially doing it a second time after our manager publicly expressed his displeasure at this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 After the World Cup I had no faith that Vlaar would be playing for someone else if there was interest. Just for a second look at our club, owner wants out, manager is not up to the task, CEO has left. No ambition, no plan. The club is just existing. What would you do if it was where you worked and someone offered you more money? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunnski Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 If Vlaar goes to Southampton I'll be seriously pissed off, I can understand if he joins Man U but not Southampton... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 If he goes to Southampton I'm glad he missed that penalty. Serves him right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 After the World Cup I had no faith that Vlaar would be playing for someone else if there was interest. Just for a second look at our club, owner wants out, manager is not up to the task, CEO has left. No ambition, no plan. The club is just existing. What would you do if it was where you worked and someone offered you more money? I can understand why he'd leave, but to Southampton? They're in a pretty poor state themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I could not blame any player for choosing to leave this summer. I would be annoyed at losing an important player but i couldn't be angry at Vlaar for wanting out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 He did become one of Holland's best defenders (not difficult at the time to be fair) in order to break into the team and start during the Euros though. Just reads like Koeman is praising Vlaar's rise during his first season managing Feyenoord rather than crediting himself with any further development whilst here. I suppose we will have to agree to disagree about the wording. However, I cynically interpret the comments as Koeman trying to take credit for Vlaar's development and undermine the platform Villa have given him these past two years. Ron is a totally different player since he joined from Feyenoord and our club has facilitated his development, It has nothing to do with Koeman. He was the "best" Dutch defender whilst representing Aston Villa Football Club. The problem is with him name-dropping and especially doing it a second time after our manager publicly expressed his displeasure at this. I agree with that. I think Koeman is trying to pressure us into selling a valuable asset. Why persist? Anyway, I hope we tell him where to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oaks Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 If Vlaar does leave us to go to Southampton we will have reached a new low in my 25 years of following them, they were in league 1 a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I agree with that. I think Koeman is trying to pressure us into selling a valuable asset. Why persist? Anyway, I hope we tell him where to go. Yes hopefully but the question has always been whether our owner will refuse the opportunity to cash in while he still hasn't signed a new deal. We'll see I guess. Koeman and Vlaar are obviously have an informal relationship and it's almost certain that Koeman will have discussed the possibility of a move directly to Vlaar. So for him to bring it up again, I believe Vlaar is continuing to give him signals that he is receptive to moving there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 If Vlaar does leave us to go to Southampton we will have reached a new low in my 25 years of following them, they were in league 1 a few years ago. Overreaction much? They're not in League 1 anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I think Southampton represent a clear step up myself. They remain a team that will be aiming to finish in the top-half whereas we will continue to be content with just staying up. My opinion of Vlaar wouldn't be affected in the slighest if he did want to move to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 (edited) If that is the case, does it not constitute to tapping up by Koeman? There has to be some sort of recourse for this type of unsettling behaviour. Edited August 14, 2014 by GENTLEMAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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