Mazrim Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 And Newcastle, having struggled financially since being relegated and spending most of what they could from the Carroll transfer elsewhere would probably tell them bollocks. But its a fair point. I would still say Newcastle is his most likely destination. But not his only option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 I'm sure they owe Newcastle far more. In fact Liverpool should just give him back and say forget the xx m we owe you, take him back According to one of my Liverpool supporting mates they have paid Newcastle £22m. However, Liverpool are apparently claiming that they want the £22m back for Carroll to flog him to the Geordies. He then said that this would also cancel down the remaining £13m Liverpool owe them, which just doesn't make sense financially. No way would Newcastle give Liverpool £35m back for Carroll. I would say £20m tops. Offer £12-15m depending on the balance from the Downing sale and tell them to take it bugger off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulver Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 I thought Newcastle were meant to be in rude health, especially compared to us ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Not that I've seen or heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaztonVilla Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 I'm sure they owe Newcastle far more. In fact Liverpool should just give him back and say forget the xx m we owe you, take him back The talk up here in Geordieland is that Liverpool don't actually owe anything for the Carroll transfer. It could be bollocks, but I've heard that it was a "cash" deal which was funded by the "cash" deal of Torres to Chelsea and was the main reason for the on again/ off again nature of that deal on transfer deadline day. This is what I heard on the day of the transfer, so at least it's not some excellent Geordie revisionism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Carroll was paid for in full up front & Ashley is doing well again, turned sports direct around who are back making money again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyp_avfc Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 For 5-8m??? Get him in that's a steal tbh and I would have though the money saved on the transfer fee could go onto wages!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 I'm sure they owe Newcastle far more. In fact Liverpool should just give him back and say forget the xx m we owe you, take him back The talk up here in Geordieland is that Liverpool don't actually owe anything for the Carroll transfer. It could be bollocks, but I've heard that it was a "cash" deal which was funded by the "cash" deal of Torres to Chelsea and was the main reason for the on again/ off again nature of that deal on transfer deadline day. This is what I heard on the day of the transfer, so at least it's not some excellent Geordie revisionism. quotes from there MD derek llambias regarding carroll and the fee (these were from a hidden recording) “I have to admit that £30M for Andy Carroll is a lot of money.” “Is he worth £30m?” “No — he’s worth f*** all.” “It is about control.” “We had the control. We knew the Torres deal was there.” “We drew that f****** deal, perhaps the ultimate.” “So £30m? F*** off! Don’t waste my time and I slammed the phone down.” “£35M? Everybody including Alan Pardew all agreed.” “But the £35M they wanted to pay over four years. It was rubbish. Mike Ashley said — and he is a brave boy Mike I promise you — get all the £35M up front.” “We got it all up front and then they never paid us on time and we charged them 12 grand f****** interest.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 For 5-8m??? Get him in that's a steal tbh and I would have though the money saved on the transfer fee could go onto wages!!! No, £5m-£8m is what Liverpool are supposed to still owe us for Downing, not Carroll's price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanky Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Wouldn't fancy paying £12-15 million for Carroll, them owing us money or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 23, 2012 Moderator Share Posted July 23, 2012 For 5-8m??? Get him in that's a steal tbh and I would have though the money saved on the transfer fee could go onto wages!!! No, £5m-£8m is what Liverpool are supposed to still owe us for Downing, not Carroll's price. They won't owe it for too much longer, they have to pay soon, PL rules dictate this iirc. You can only pay 50% and a further 50% in 12 months time iirc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 maybe we could waive that 5-8 million if they were to take Hutton off our hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 It's interesting though. Say they owe us £8m and they want £20m for Carroll. We waive the debt, give them £7m and have the rest dependent on performance over the next couple of years. It's do-able, in theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 The stumbling block could be the wages. We would need to get him on something like £65k a week maximum in order to do that. The only way I could see that happening is if we sold Ireland to QPR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Or Dunne to anybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted July 24, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted July 24, 2012 Wouldn't fancy paying £12-15 million for Carroll, them owing us money or not. Thats probably what he is worth TBF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 He's on 80k a week lads Forget about carroll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 He's on £65,000 a week. According to Liverpool fans anyway. Please, stop posting in this thread if you're so certain its a non starter. We dont need to read the same post 50 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Or Dunne to anybody. Good point. Horrific that we have a CB pairing on probably 100k/week between them. We could get Williams and Vlaar in for half that amount and still have a good chunk left to put towards signing Carroll. CI - If you're saying forget about Carroll why can't you do the same thing? Telling someone to forget about a subject, then continue to post on that subject yourself is a bit odd isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousHolteUnion Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 I hope we dont sign Carroll, a colossol waste of money imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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